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[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (10 children)

Old white guy: why would anyone be against status quo. Who cares if it doesn't make sense, things are going great for me

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

I'll just leave this here
Harry Hill: 'I am a bit anti-monarchy at the moment, (and he's otherwise openly criticised the establishment)

Like, sure, the optics of it are what you'd expect from a kids show on main stream media, so - not great, but he never actually disagrees with her, he's mostly making anxious faces, probably assuming the whole segment will end up on the editing room floor. If he'd agreed with her the whole thing would have definitely been cut and he'd get replaced, it's not like he could have had an honest conversation with her on junior bloody bake off..

E: either way, this is about her, I hate that it's become about him..

[–] cluelessafterall 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I am glad you brought additional context to the clip. I can see how he'd be reluctant to interject his views on the monarchy himself. I didn't know how I should have read "little leftist firebrand", even though I did enjoy her unfiltered and clear answers.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Exactly, it's not a talk show or even an interview, it's filler on a kids show! That it even got to that point is impressive in its own right..

I think a good take away from this is that kids need more space, especially in more mainstream media (rather than just tiktok and that, which have both value and risks, like most things) to have open and honest conversations with adults about politics and how it impacts their everyday lives (which it absolutely does). Kids are a lot more in tune and in touch than most people give them credit for.

[–] Whelks_chance -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Or they parrot whatever an influential adult in their lives has said to them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Kids are a lot more in tune and in touch than most people give them credit for.

Thanks for volunteering yourself to demonstrate my point, and at the same time giving an example of exactly why open and honest conversations with other adults in a public widely viewed forum are important. Well done.

[–] Whelks_chance -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You've lost me. Are you saying that children have something new and interesting to bring to the table of political discussion, or that it's somehow interesting to hear an adults opinion in a child's voice?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

interesting to hear an adults opinion in a child’s voice?

lol what? 😂😂😂

Your previous statement demonstrates that you don't give kids any credit. It also provides an example of exactly why kids should have more space to have open conversations about politics because yes, they absolutely would have new and interesting things to bring to the table, and it they are in a situation where they are being manipulated by one or a small group of adults and is parroting their opinions back, to provide them different opinions and the space to talk them through.

[–] TheDoozer 1 points 5 months ago

It's good for children to see these conversations, and the challenges to them, which gives both the child talking and any children watching the idea that what they think and know is worth bouncing off other adults and discussing to get a better position, and their perceptions colored by what their parents have taught them are worthy of consideration.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

But that's not always the case. Plenty of kids can take in media or just life observations and make their own conclusions, it's true though a lot of their views are just what their hear from adults around them. I think that's true of adults too to a lesser extent.

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