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It came to about $1200 NZD (64GB RAM + 1TB NVMe), didn't have to pay any import duties somehow (they had a checkbox on the order form for skipping duties, maybe they mark it as a gift or something? not sure how that works)
The GPU is integrated (Radeon 780M) and is actually not bad - 60FPS on most games, even on Cyberpunk 2077 (1440p on low, or 1080p on medium). But there's also an option of connecting a desktop GPU externally, via the Oculink port - just need an Oculink -> PCIe adapter/dock.
No import duties? Lucky you. Here, I can't even buy a Pixel phone without paying expensive import duties (duty-free limit of 50 dollars). Not to mention I have to register IMEI on the govt website.
No, we normally have to pay duties too (and yes Pixel phones are quite expensive here because of it), but Minisforum managed to bypass it somehow.
I got my Pixel second hand off Trade me, less than a year old and an awful lot cheaper than a new one!
Our customs are all asswipes, even if you buy a second hand phone. They'll impose import duties as a new phone.
You're not able to buy second hand locally? I know Pixels aren't sold too widely so I wouldn't be surprised if you can't.
It's worthless, the importers bribes our customs. So the registered IMEI can be removed from database at anytime and the phone becomes no signal.
Oh that sucks 🙁
Hmm, it would be nice to have a smaller TV-connected box but my current desktop plugged into my TV has an RX 5700 which is apparently still twice as powerful as those integrated graphics so maybe I'll keep waiting.
Is it quiet? My desktop has many fans plus a noisy HDD so it's really quite noisy in a quiet room.
Yep, it's pretty quiet. Not that I've run any serious loads on it yet, just a bunch of CLI apps + Firefox + a couple of VMs (RHEL + Rocky) in the background at the moment.
And yea a dedicated GPU will always be more powerful, but it also depends on your workload - so you really need all that GPU power? At least for the games I play, the onboard one is adequate for me. If not you could always go the Oculink route and get a dock or an eGPU like the GPD G1.
I thought mine might be old enough that integrated graphics might have come close, but I don't really remember how old it is.
The GPU was for VR, but I've recently broken a lighthouse so can't play anymore 🙁. I've been thinking I hardly play it these days anyway, too many kids not enough time (or energy). Probably will sell it.
I hardly play games on it anymore either. Just the multiplayer stuff with kids, Stardew Valley and the Lego Star Wars Skywalker Saga game. Maybe minecraft occasionally.
Without VR I guess I don't need much GPU power anymore.
It's still hard to justify a fancy new machine when the one I have works, though!
That's where the AppleTV really shines; 4K HDR capable but fanless and tiny, with good audio output too. Then you can just move the noisy load elsewhere. Which in my case is only for rare transcoding needs; all the streaming services run fine out of the box. Any iGPU can do the same its just all the other heat generation inside a desktop demands fans.
I wonder if you could jerry rig an HDMI output from a phone - a newish one would probably crank 4K just fine too, lol.
I would be looking to use it not just for watching stuff, but for running my home server (everything from Mediawiki to Nextcloud to Jellyfin). If it's replacing my desktop then it also needs to be able to play games like Stardew Valley or Minecraft, and support X box controllers.
Currently I have an old laptop running the server and running Kodi to play stuff from Jellyfin in a smart-TV like interface, and the desktop is separate. It would be nice to consolidate to one machine.
Ah yeah, you're a bit stuck with fans then :)
I figured I'd have fans, but the laptop is a lot quieter than the desktop, that's the noise level I'd like. The laptop is old enough it doesn't have hardware transcoding, so that would be one reason I'd like an upgrade, now that this Kodi thing seems to be working well for us.