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[–] Mamertine 43 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Jokes aside.

Felony by definition means it's punishable by at least one year in prison.

So specifically, why are we incarcerating consenting adults for having sex?

From a moral point, don't do that. From a legal point, stay out of the bedroom.

I'll also add context of this is a very Western belief. Natives of America prevented inbreeding by not marrying within the clan. Your first cousins could be in a different clan and therefore open for marriage.

[–] breakingcups 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You say consenting adults, the bill says one of them can be as young as 13 years...

[–] Mamertine 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and I'll counter that argument by suggesting we ban having sex with children regardless of if the molester is related.

[–] half_built_pyramids 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Right? It's only like 1.7 to 2.8% more of a chance of a birth defect. That's nothing. That's gambling odds easy. Every day.

[–] kromem 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It largely depends on how prevalent it is socially.

In societies where first cousin reproduction isn't common, the increased risk of birth defects is about the same as a pregnancy where the mother is in her 40s.

In societies where it is common, the rates can go up sharply though when it compounds across generations.

[–] half_built_pyramids 1 points 11 months ago

Good point. Who cares about the lower rates, honestly? Its not like we're the ones that have to live with the defect lol, keep blasting homies

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I think the issue is twofold: if you allow a groomer (a real one, not a drag queen) to be around a child for their entire life, there will be an effect on what the child wants as an adult; and people have a lot of opportunities to blackmail family members.

Those things make it difficult to determine if the two consenting adults are both truly consenting. It’s the same logic behind banning polygamy- it’s very easy for people to become trapped in it because their entire social universe supports it, so if you say no, you’re excommunicated. There’s therefore no real way to know if you consented.

It’s the same reason cops can’t have sex with people they are holding under arrest. Oh wait…