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Germany, which committed genocide in Namibia, blasted for defending Israel by African nation - UPI.com (www.upi.com)
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Namibian President Hage G. Geingob blasted Germany on Saturday for defending Israel at the International Court of Justice in The Hague, pointing to the genocide Germany itself perpetrated on Namibians in the early 1900s.

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[โ€“] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Germany debates tying citizenship to Israel loyalty - Deutsche Welle - December 8 2023

Saxony-Anhalt, a state in Germany has done what many around the country are calling for: If you want to be a citizen of Germany, you need to pledge allegiance to Israel. The legality of this remains unclear.

Effective immediately, those applying forGerman citizenship in the east-central state of Saxony-Anhalt must declare their support for Israel's right to exist. This "commitment" is part of new language that state interior minister, Tamara Zieschang, informed relevant authorities about in a ministerial decree this week.

Failing to do so would deny naturalization to foreigners who otherwise fulfill the necessary conditions for obtaining German nationality. Under the new guidelines, applicants would have to sign a declaration that they "recognize Israel's right to exist and condemn any efforts directed against the existence of the state of Israel."

[โ€“] JayObey711 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Pledging loyalty to Israel and recognizing that Israel has a right to exist sound like very different things to me. Don't get me wrong this change is dangerous but not for the reasons you think. It shows how AFD managed to push right wing ideas into the mainstream.

[โ€“] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The segment of DW above was like a response to this comment:

Right, because Germany is acting so awfully one-sided.

Since Germany has not even recognized the right to exist of Palestine, having to recognize the right of existence of Israel in order to get a citizenship, seems to me awfully one-sided.

If I understand correctly it is still a debate. A one-sided, one.

Also in relation to your comment:

Pledging loyalty to Israel and recognizing that Israel has a right to exist sound like very different things to me.

The way I see it, it's more "Pledging loyalty to Israel by recognizing that Israel has a right to exist"

[โ€“] JayObey711 1 points 10 months ago

That's all correct and I agree with you on these points. What I'm trying to say is that this change is (I think, not 100% sure because I wasn't in the room of course) made to combat "imported antisemitism" wich is a different "issue" from the Israel situation entirely. There would not have to be a recognition to the right to exist for Palestine because they are not receiving the type of discrimination by imigrants the Jewish community does.