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[–] Railing5132 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't know about "oversteps"... Screwups most definitely. Koresh was raping young women and there were valid search warrants; it became a thing because the DoJ royally fucked up the execution of those warrants and let it get out of control. Randy weaver had a bench warrant for failure to appear on a federal firearms charge. Again, as he was in the process of being served, someone (ATF agent Art Roderick) shot their dog when it ran at him, kicking off the escalation of violence that made the routine process serving into a tragedy.

It was not "overreach". It was a fuck up.

[–] CobblerScholar 2 points 11 months ago

You're right. It's been a minute since I've refreshed my memory on the Branch Davidians, forgot how bad it was

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That’s some knowledge there. ATF fan, government fuck up fan, or history buff? 😁

[–] Dkarma 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not op but this is standard "lore" in every gun circle/ gun club / gun show /fb group

[–] Railing5132 2 points 11 months ago

Not sure what part or to whom is being ascribed to as gun fanatic/facebook-hellscape, but for my part, I don't side with either of those camps.

[–] Railing5132 2 points 11 months ago