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[–] iforgotmyinstance 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

I mean stop touching the damn boats. People be touching US boats like 4 times in history and it always turns out bad.

The Imperial Japanese Navy sank 8 US boats and we dropped the Sun on them. Twice.

[–] fastandcurious 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That’s the problem, you touch a US boat and you get bombed, the US fucks an entire region over and they face no consequence

[–] Trollception 3 points 10 months ago

Guess nobody wanted to mess with the US?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The Houthis are blocking Israeli ports in response to genocide.

Why were US ships going to the ports of a country actively committing genocide?

The US is now bombing a sovereign nation to stop trade sanctions on a genocide.

[–] splicerslicer 1 points 10 months ago

They're attacking commercial shipping vessels passing through the suez canal that have nothing to do with Israel or Palestine or the US. If you knew how how to read or think you'd already know this.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You don't get to seal off a critical global shipping route just because you happen to be living next to it and don't like where some of the cargo is going. This isn't like the bosphorous, even a recognized Yemeni government wouldn't have control over who can transit the strait unless they invaded Djibouti

[–] AA5B -3 points 10 months ago

Why were US ships going to

They weren’t. While you may disagree with US Navy hanging out in the area, they’re in international waters and not trying to go to Israel. You could argue that attacking US ships proves the blockade story is a farce

[–] Linkerbaan 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

America has been supplying Saudi with weapons to attack the Houthis with for many years.

The Houthis didn't lose.

Why are people so mad that someone is actually standing up for human rights? The demands of the Houthis are very reasonable.

[–] sailingbythelee 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

What are the demands of the Houthis? I know they are Iranian-funded and trained, and that they've been warring with the Saudis for years. But now all of a sudden they are world news for attacking global shipping. I also know they say they are supporting the Palestinians, but that seems like a fig leaf.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yemen wants Israel to end its genocide against Palestinians in Gaza.

[–] sailingbythelee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's kind of broad since some people consider the whole conflict a slow-rolling genocide, not just the latest post-October 7 phase of the conflict. Are their demands specific to the current phase of the conflict? Like, if there is a ceasefire in Gaza, will the Houthis stop firing missiles?

I suppose I kind of get their stated motivation. I mean, Western countries are sanctioning Russia for invading Ukraine. The strange part is that the Houthis aren't targeting Israeli vessels specifically. This is more like if Malta was shooting missiles at non-Russian ships in order to convince China to put pressure on Russia to end the war in Ukraine. It's weird.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The demands seem to be specific to the current phase of the conflict. They want Israel out of Gaza and for humanitarian aid to flow in accordance with international law.

The demands are limited because their goal is to have those demands met, not to be attacking ships. Demanding anything more than what they are currently doing would basically guarantee they won’t be met, and therefore counterproductive. Yemen has other issues they need resources for, a protracted conflict is not the goal. As for why they target non-Israeli ships, it seems they are willing to target ships associated with Israeli allies as well. COSCO, a Chinese shipping company, has stopped doing business with Israel and is continuing to transit the Red Sea without interference from the Yemenis, for example.

[–] sailingbythelee 1 points 10 months ago

That's interesting, thanks. I had no idea they managed to get a huge Chinese firm to stop doing business with Israel.

[–] AA5B 1 points 10 months ago

It certainly looks like attention seeking and piracy for money

[–] splicerslicer 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"standing up for human rights"

Meanwhile, on the Houthis flags: "death to Israel, death to America, Jews are a curse upon the land"

You, a joke of a person who needs to look in the mirror and laugh at yourself: "very reasonable people"

[–] Linkerbaan 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

We're talking about their actions at this very moment. Not them as an organization.

If Kim Jong Un decided to block to Red Sea to support Palestinine instead of the Houthis it would be just as morally correct. If America did it too.

It's about getting water, food and medicine to little children who are getting their legs amputated without anesthetics as if it's a SAW movie.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The US is willing to kill untold number of people because otherwise the cheap shirts made by children in Bangladesh will arrive slightly late. I do hope for this evil empire to fucking die already.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

For Bangladesh it's probably faster to go east to get to the US. The majority of ships going through the Suez Canal are trading with Europe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No civilians died in the first strikes, and I'm not aware of any sources claiming any civilian deaths in these strikes either, which is probably to be expected given that they were against a military air base.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Would you change your mind if Houthi soldiers died? What is civilians would die?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I'm not going to feel particularly bad about people with the slogan "Death to America, death to Israel, a curse on the Jews" being killed in combat in a retaliatory military strike.