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What are your ideas, that if you could implement would likely stop our species from warring so much?

I'm asking for a reasonable ones, but if not - at least make them funny :P

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A single world spanning country.

If we don't kill ourselves off first it will probably happen eventually. Country sized used to be limited by things like communication latency, and the time it took to move forces around. Technology has shrunk the world so that those things no longer matter. The natural size limit on a country is almost certainly as large as the earth now.

It won't happen soon, cultures will take time to become similar enough to merge. Leadership structures take time to be absorbed into a greater one (EU style) or have to forcefully taken over (Chechnya style, thankfully very rare these days). But with no real impediment to countries growing larger, it will happen eventually. With no-one able to fund or support rebellion and modern technology making police actions extremely effective it may well last effectively forever.

Whether it's a democratic utopia, a dictatorial nightmare, or something in between for the common citizen is not yet defined. Either way, war, as in peer to peer conflict between sovereigns, will be over.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, you can still get civil war in that scenario right, or just mass strife and protests which can grow into warlike movements.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

With the capability of modern surveillance technology (making it extremely hard to organize a rebellion), and the sophistication of modern weaponry (making it extremely hard to arm an army without state support) it strikes me as unlikely that you would ever get civil war in a single country world.

Civil war is already incredibly rare with plenty of outside actors happy to support trouble.

I certainly don't rule out mass strife and protests, but the question was about war, not suffering.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Doesn't that loop back around?

Everyone becomes part of the world government, but as time goes on people with different leanings or needs or whatever band together. With time and effort they are allowed exceptions, customizations, etc. This turns into more groups collecting in the same way with more factioning as a result.

It may not be geographic countries in the same way, but isn't the result the same?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Factions happen. Political power struggles happen. Even coups happen.

It's quite rare for civil wars to happen, or for countries to dissolve. With a world country where there were no outside groups to go to for support or see as an example, it will become even rarer. "Not in a thousand years" sort of rare.

Conflict within a country which maintains superior capacity to violence than it's constituent groups is very different from war. That doesn't mean no one gets shot, but it means no one carves the land up with trenches and barrages the enemy with artillery for months on end. Real war is a particularly ugly beast and very few things are like it.