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The Journal reported executives at SpaceX worried Elon Musk was on drugs after an "unhinged" all-hands meeting in which he slurred and rambled.

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[–] Barack_Embalmer 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I heard some of the really wealthy Silicon Valley types kit out their own private laboratory and hire chemists.

[–] Kbobabob 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I heard aliens are real. That doesn't exactly make it true. I doubt anyone with half a brain would have a full blown narcotics lab. At least, I've never heard of such a thing.

[–] Uglyhead 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Small batch boutique narcotics are a market just waiting to be milked in Silicon Valley.

The purest of pure cocaine,..charge 10x the price of the best on the street.

Any and all RC’s you’d ever want at your fingertips, etc etc.

It’s just far too lucrative to think nobody is doing it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Esp when you consider that most street drugs are laced with fentanyl/carfentanil.

That almost guarantees the rich and famous have their own supply line.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Esp when you consider that most street drugs are laced with fentanyl/carfentanil.

I've been wondering how this could make sense as I've seen it claimed more and more often (feels very similar to the original war on drugs hysteria of the 80s and 90s), and I admit I haven't looked too deeply, but it seems this is once again something being overblown due to the war on drugs.

**But according to experts, nationwide drug studies, and the DEA's own data, fentanyl contamination in non-opioid drug supplies is exceedingly rare, and largely centered on a specific, highly-vulnerable subset of users. **Critics say this is why the alarm raised by health officials and law enforcement is so concerning: Authorities stoking broad, misleading fears of fentanyl poisoning the non-opioid drug supply marks a damaging mission creep in the battle to stem the opioid crisis. As we've seen previously in the War on Drugs, narratives based on fear, not data, distract policy makers, public health advocates, and even first responders away from those who are at real risk.

There is lots more info on the article linked, I just cherrypicked these two summary statements.

So why the misleading claims about recreational coke and cannabis users being at such a high risk?

On one hand, public health officials are doing what they're meant to do: warn the public about health risks. On the other, the scale of the concern around fentanyl contaminating the entire US drug supply is a very familiar narrative in the War on Drugs: the belief that dealers are governed not by economics but by malice, that users are helpless addicts, and that drug eradication is the only solution to these problems.

There's far more detail in the article.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/8xyzkp/the-truth-about-drug-dealers-lacing-cocaine-with-fentanyl

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Obviously, you aren't around drugs/drug users that often. Fent definitely is a real issue. A lot of my drug using friends(that are still alive) have conspiracies about why its in everything thats "not natural"(weed/shrooms/etc) for lack of better term... But it has started to show up in everything the last decade. Uppers/downers/psychs. Shits ridiculous

But for anyone dabbling.. Test strips are cheap. Use them. Mix the shit up good and test, even if you gotta break down the rock. Your friends and family dont want to find you dead covered in your own shit, piss and puke cause you were to lazy and cheap to test the shit.

[–] Malfeasant 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who needs repeat business? Just twirl your mustache at your dead clientele.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Isn't that why they lace it? Cheaper and more addicting. Some are just stupid enough to put a bit too much and end up killing people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

in non-opioid drug supplies

That's the qualifier. I have no idea why anyone would think marijuana would be contaminated with fentanyl.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fair, but that qualifier seems to be missing on billboards I see and even in this statement:

Esp when you consider that most street drugs are laced with fentanyl/carfentanil.

This gives the impression that cannabis, LSD, shrooms, etc etc are also at risk here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When most people (including journalists) speak about street drugs they're referencing heroin, cocaine, meth, etc ... not LSD, pot or mushrooms.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

That seems an odd disqualification to me, but I'll take your word for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Especially when there are (semi-) legalized dispensaries that have to go through certified laboratories. Hey, maybe that's the solution.

[–] EightLeggedFreak 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don't know... Some of us common folk put a lot of what money we have into little hobby pot farms and greenhouses. If a billionaire just keeps throwing money at it, they can have a pretty nice setup of whatever drug manufacturing they want.

You're right, though. Never heard of it, but I won't be surprised if we ever do.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but he was trying to make a new super meth Viagra to fuel his week long orgies, he's not really a typical case

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Typical among multi millionaires and billionaires? I'm not so sure. Especially when they're named Elon.

Also, McAfee was a known poster to certain forums where home drug lab questions were common, so it's certainly a thing.

[–] Mrkawfee 1 points 11 months ago

That's totally what I'd do.