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In a letter published Wednesday on Medium, an anonymous group of Biden's campaign staffers demanded the president call for a ceasefire in Gaza, citing concerns that not shifting his policy on the issue could hurt his 2024 chances.


"Biden for President staff have seen volunteers quit in droves, and people who have voted blue for decades feel uncertain about doing so for the first time ever, because of this conflict," the Medium letter read.

"It is not enough to merely be the alternative to Donald Trump," the campaigners continued. "The campaign has to shift the feeling in the pits of voters' stomachs, the same feeling that weighs on us every day as we fight for your reelection. The only way to do that is to call for a ceasefire."

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[–] phoneymouse 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

No I’m saying that you can vote for someone and not agree with everything they stand for because that’s the best option you have. We do need reforms in America, but is that a reason to not vote or to wait around until all the conditions are perfect for you to vote your ideals?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So if I disagree with one pro-genocide politician less than the other, I should support a pro-genocide candidate? That's not reasonable, it's falling prey to a false choice. I hate to paraphrase the Declaration of Independence at Americans, but at least the founders understood when the course of human events made it necessary to dissolve political ties.

[–] pozbo -5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

So what is the move? It's clearly wrong to vote for Biden and you say not voting is a waste. So be frank and say what you're thinking clearly and plainly.

[–] HipHoboHarold 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They did say it clearly. But let me see if I can't help.

You can have a slap in the face

Or a rusty shank to the neck

One or the other.

If you don't pick, one will be picked for you.

I get not wanting to vote for him. I do. But not all of us get that luxury.

I'm gay. Me and my boyfriend are talking about leaving the country. He's got one last semester of nursing school. Lots of places are desperate for nurses. We can probably get out. If we do, then I can say we get to move.

If the Republicans win, it won't just be get to, it will become need to as well. Any queer person who stays is taking a big risk. But not everyone will be able to leave.

Between the push for a fascist theocracy with Trump as the dictator as he uses phrases pulled from the Nazis and gives us their plans under Project 2025, I don't get the luxury of saying "Well, let's see if we can't come back from this." When we talk about being terrified of a Republican presidency, we are not exaggerating.

This isn't a light decision to make. I hate it. Even if the dems win, we might still leave. Project 2025 will just turn to Project 2029. Project 2033. Eventually they will win. But in the mean time I have to decide between voting for Joe who supports Isreal

Or risk Trump who supports Isreal, but also supports the same thing here

It's Biden or Trump

A slap in the face or a rusty shank to the neck

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Palestinians aren't getting slapped in the face. it's a fucking genocide

[–] HipHoboHarold 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Thanks for proving my point even more. Feel free to argue the point or move on.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago

don't tell me what to do

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

telling you your analogy is insulting doesn't prove your point at all.

[–] HipHoboHarold 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If the point went over your head and you can only focus on that and ignore the rest, than take a seat. Of course the "don't tell me what to do" comment makes me think you really might not be adult enough to have this conversation.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Vote people that has naunces on the downballot.