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So much spice in this article. I honestly wonder if he's going to swallow his pride and say that NYC is no longer a Sanctuary City (IMO that would be the honorable thing to do), or keep up this charade.
A sanctuary city just means the city is going to let the federal government handle the federal issue. You aren't a citizen of a state. You are a citizen of the country. So it's a federal issue.
And it actually has some benefits. Like imagine witnessing a murder and not being able to say anything. They find the body, it's a mystery, no one knows who did it. You could bring closure to the family... but you can't say anything. Because you would also get punished.
In a sanctuary city, they can come forward with information without worry about being deported.
Maybe do some research on things instead of just using them as buzzwords.
Shush, we can't have truth around here. It ruffles too many feathers.
The article is behind a paywall, but I fail to see how being a sanctuary city justifies trafficking people and dumping them in another state. Do you not understand what a sanctuary city is? Or do you not understand that lying to people so they will get on a bus out of state is a crime?
You fail to see how actively supporting illegal immigration is justification for dumping the problem on them?
Got it, you don't know what a sanctuary city is, and you think that people existing in your state is a problem you can solve with kidnapping.
Do you have evidence of illegals being forced on the busses?
These people? Not yet, this just happened.
But these people were deceived. Kidnapping by deception is the legal equivalent of using force.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/migrants-landed-marthas-vineyard-tricked-misleading-brochure-lawyers-s-rcna48390
Some people have reported being intimidated, some have said that they were told there would be services, some report being told that it was going to expedite their asylum process.
None of these people have committed a crime. Existence is not illegal. It is not a crime to cross the border. It is not a crime to seek asylum. There's a process, and all of these people are going through it. They have case numbers and wristbands with their info on it. Calling them "illegals" is both dishonest and reveals your own prejudice. If they had been denied asylum in court, then they would be deported.
Accusations are not evidence.
Entering a country illegally is ... Illegal.
Crossing the border illegally is ... Illegal.
There's no such thing as entering the country illegally or crossing the border illegally. These are inventions of xenophobic politicians trying to make you fear outsiders. It is illegal to circumvent the immigration process, or to fail to follow the application process for asylum. But you can cross the border and then apply for immigration or asylum without committing a crime.
Here's the law about crossing the border. Turns out you can enter the country illegally.
8 U.S. Code § 1325
I’ve already cited him the law. It’s even called illegal entry.
It is a crime to cross the border. Where did you come up with that horse shit?
https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1911-8-usc-1325-unlawful-entry-failure-depart-fleeing-immigration#:~:text=The%20Illegal%20Immigration%20Reform%20and,subject%20to%20a%20civil%20penalty.
Did you not even bother to read your own link?
Proper entry includes crossing the border and asking for asylum. There is no crime committed until and unless the person attempts to circumvent the immigration or asylum process. The act of crossing the border by itself is not enough.
Crossing the border is circumventing the process. SMH
Asylum is supposed to be done before you enter the country or at at checkpoint.
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/02/21/border-immigration-biden-rule-asylum-deport/
Literally anyone from anywhere is legally allowed to cross the border and ask for asylum without breaking any laws. INS checkpoints are for convenience.
No. https://www.texastribune.org/2023/02/21/border-immigration-biden-rule-asylum-deport/
God no. Though to be fair; the term doesn’t mean much. It means they won’t actively go after illegal immigrants but Biden isn’t going after them either. In effect all cities are sanctuary cities under Biden
And gas prices were so much lower under clinton, that's the other point we use to determine who the worst president is right? Clearly clinton was better than trump too, gas was so cheap back then.
There you go again.
If you didn't like that just wait until I tell you about gas prices under JFK 🫣
No clue why you are talking about prices. Did you bump your head ?
Nah, just refuting the braindead take I hear from your type of folk everyday before you get the chance to make it.
It's called preparation.
It’s not often I can say that’s the stupidest thing I’ve heard. Congrats
🎉🎉 I win!
pyrrhic victory
So you decided to whataboutism about something completely irrelevant to the post, clearly in bad faith, and it took you 7 days to respond to winter, 7 days to prepare an internet comment, took being stupid as a win, and just now you decide to report him? What, like a super downvote?
Am I reading this exchange right?
Wow dude read the rules.
I even put in the little box that a rule was broken. If you can't get to the point from there consider not being a mod you fuckin yokel.