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700 million, "tens of thousands of migrants", that's about ten to seventy thousand per head. And that's just for transporting them!

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[–] themeatbridge 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

These people? Not yet, this just happened.

But these people were deceived. Kidnapping by deception is the legal equivalent of using force.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/migrants-landed-marthas-vineyard-tricked-misleading-brochure-lawyers-s-rcna48390

Some people have reported being intimidated, some have said that they were told there would be services, some report being told that it was going to expedite their asylum process.

None of these people have committed a crime. Existence is not illegal. It is not a crime to cross the border. It is not a crime to seek asylum. There's a process, and all of these people are going through it. They have case numbers and wristbands with their info on it. Calling them "illegals" is both dishonest and reveals your own prejudice. If they had been denied asylum in court, then they would be deported.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Accusations are not evidence.

Entering a country illegally is ... Illegal.

Crossing the border illegally is ... Illegal.

[–] themeatbridge -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's no such thing as entering the country illegally or crossing the border illegally. These are inventions of xenophobic politicians trying to make you fear outsiders. It is illegal to circumvent the immigration process, or to fail to follow the application process for asylum. But you can cross the border and then apply for immigration or asylum without committing a crime.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Here's the law about crossing the border. Turns out you can enter the country illegally.

8 U.S. Code § 1325

Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I’ve already cited him the law. It’s even called illegal entry.