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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Don't pay for disco elysium. The creators were ousted in a hostile takeover, ironically. Pirate it if you can. Otherwise great list πŸ™‚

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should watch the PMG video about it, it's much more nuanced than that.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Here's the link for anyone interested. I have watched that video and still firmly believe it was a hostile take over.

[–] BedbugCutlefish 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, both claims can be true (about it being a hostile takeover, and Kurvitz being a bad boss), but I feel like one of those things is radically worse (and more illegal) than the other.

(and also, I question PMG's interview process, where it felt like the spent equal time on both claims, and more attention and interviews on the 'Kurvitz is a bad boss/employee' claim, when I feel like more time should have been spent cross-interviewing Kompus for the discrepancies, and the bias the employee's have to cater to their current boss rather than their former boss.)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

So it's not just the Citizen Kane of video adventure games but even features the same complexity of IRL drama.

We've made it, lads!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Workers say the lead and creators were dicks, tough to work with. Investor and largest shareholder bought out a majority share, is now currently fighting to keep the IP and excise the lead/creators under the guise that they weren't good for company culture.

My personal view, disregard it if you want to make your own judgements, it doesn't matter if the guy is a dick, this is what they created. Saying it's what was best for the company seemingly only seems to be best for one guy. You don't get to use being a piece of shit to work with, even if 100% true, as a reason to conspire against and force everyone out of the company. You open clear cut dialogue and boundaries, then make compromises. This youtuber's video that goes into much more depth and eloquently explains my position.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Thank you for sharing the article and the TLDR. I honestly had no idea any of this had transpired.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

To be fair I think they had decent reason to be fired. Seemed they basically had left the company to attempt to make it on their own, leaving those who just had to make the Final Cut without them to get fucked. Not to mention legit trying to take source code. You also mentioned not covering the financials, but the video can’t really go much into the financial situation as that is all under litigation so they’re not going to get much out of it. I mean hell the creators being like β€œwhat I had no idea this new company, of which I am an owner, was created at all.” Seems…. Impossible? But yeah, that part will have to wait for court.

Overall my opinion is everyone sucks other than the team still working there who had nothing to do with it. The creators selling their IP was a poor choice if they wanted to try and leave the company and make their own. Consolidating the company I mean, yeah dick move I guess but to be expected of an investor when something proves to be a success.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure what this instance allows for suggestions, but the GOG version is ideal, stay away from IGG-Games.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only issue is I just don't trust pirated games enough to install them on my PC. I guess I could wait for a give away in the future.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Building and keeping trust is actually important to the ethos of good pirates. I'd recommend you to download GOG versions, which are left totally untouched since they're DRM free. I can send you some links by DM if you'd like, or you can check the megathread of my home instance's piracy community.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Wow I had no idea. That's so sad.