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[–] [email protected] 107 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This is very good. The higher those numbers go, the more pressure there will be for better official support for both HW and SW.

FOSS is fantastic. But lack of options (FOSS or paid) for a few of my use cases keeps me stapled to Windows and WSL. Unfortunately. I'm hoping the momentum shifts.

[–] PopOfAfrica 45 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If literally any Adobe competitor released a product for Linux they'd dominate that niche.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

I tend to agree. And people need to realize that Adobe's secret sauce is not in their apps, it's in the multi-device interoperability. I love lightroom, but it's not the photo editing ability (darkroom has that), rather it's the fact that I can seamlessly work the same catalogue from any device (even if I don't use their cloud for anything but smart previews).

I think Adobe would cash in if they supported Linux - for want of a workable alternative, I'd even pay them.

Music device manufacturers need to support Linux too. NI Maschine (and others) is simply a non-starter...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It really depends, but some tools would really do that. DaVinci Resolve, for example, has a pretty bad Linux distribution support and format, all things considered, and it's still the go-to video editor for Linux users, despite all of the issues.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Kdenlive and shotcut are also great.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They really are, but still leagues behind the features (and online learning material) compared to Resolve. I love both of them, but still, when I need to get to work with video, I still prefer to deal with Resolve's limitations than to deal with Kdenlive or Shotcut.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Fair enough! My only work with video has been very lightweight stuff and I haven't needed much else. Shotcut definitely has quirks, though I know it a lot better than kdenlive. Have not played enough with Resolve to comment, though I have it on my list to try when the opportunity presents itself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] PopOfAfrica 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I say this as a foss proponent... gimp sucks ass.

Now, Inkscape is Goat, but Gimp is nigh unusable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

When was the last time you used it? The newer versions are better and with Gimp 3 there will be many improvements.

[–] PopOfAfrica 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I guess that's fair. It works fine for me when I use it occasionally.

[–] shredderdoitbetta 2 points 11 months ago

That name though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

There are lots of individual applications that do pretty well in and of themselves (darktable, gimp, krita, etc.) they have varying degrees of niceness. But what Adobe can do has no analogue in Linux land (paid or not) - it's the multi-device interoperability. It makes for unparalleled workflow. I am not an advocate your Adobe - I really wish there was someone else that did it, and I believe it is something worth paying for. Figma maybe? (but it's all cloud and was nearly knocked out by Adobe...)

(FWIW, I've never found gimp to be pleasant to use, but that is only my own subjective experience. Others like it and that's a good thing.)

[–] TheGrandNagus 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I appreciate GIMP but nah, it's objectively inferior to Photoshop by a long shot and development is really slow. I mean they've only just got to GTK 3.

It's comparatively difficult to use.

Plus they insist on sticking to that infantile name. I don't know how they're expecting to get industry support with a name like that.

Don't get me wrong I use it every once in a while but damn they're so far behind it's a joke. And the worst part is they seemingly don't want the project to advance.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

FOSS or paid

I hope you know the difference between Free(Libre) and Free(gratis)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I suppose what I mean is that i am happy to select whatever software is best for the task at hand. I have no issue with paying for software if it serves my needs. In a few cases, that limits my options to running windows as commercial versions are unavailable on Linux, and it is my hope that more commercial orgs start making their wares available for Linux, especially in cases where there's no available alternative.

As for splitting hairs on the difference between gratis and libre, life's too short (so if I used incorrect terminology, c'est la vie...)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I guess you don't know its difference.

Free software means freedom and not the price. There are paid free software.

By defenition, free software is software that satisfy 4 essential freedoms

Freedom 0: Freedom to run the program any way you want on any of your devices

Freedom 1: To see and study how the program works and change it according to your needs. Source code of the entire program should be visible for this freedom

Freedom 2: Freedom to share copies of the original program(sharing is caring)

Freedom 3: Freedom to share copies of the modified version which you adapted to your needs such that whole community can benefit from your modifications

So yeah this is Free software, and when you say FOSS, its not about the price, but the freedom and control you get with the software. Why is this important? Because theese non-free softwares are taking away our freedom by even limiting "us" from using our "own" devices(DRM, locked bootloader, etc.), and it will be too late to realise how most proprietary softwares we use, and ones we are forced to use, captures our freedom.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago