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Steam has now officially stopped supporting Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1.::95.57 percent of surveyed Steam users are already on Windows 10 and 11, with nearly 2 percent of the remainder on Linux and 1.5 percent on Mac — so we may be talking about fewer than 1 percent of users on these older Windows builds. Older versions of MacOS will also lose support on February 15th, just a month and a half from now. Correction: It's macOS 10.13 and 10.14 that are losing support. Not macOS period.

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[–] partial_accumen 45 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Your post would do well in "unpopular opinion".

[–] NoRodent 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

To be fair, W8.1 wasn't that bad, you could even change the full screen start menu to a regular one. W10 was better though. W11 is... well they fixed the most glaring issues over the last year but I still can't get over the crippled start menu.

[–] partial_accumen 6 points 10 months ago

The "modern" (aka metro) interface was possibly good on a phone or tablet. Arguably even possibly on a touch screen laptop (not for me though). However it had no business being on a mouse driven computer or even worse a server operating system (Windows 2012).

Even the idea for "metro" apps was horrible. Full screen only. The whole reason the OS is called windows is because you could have two "windows" with two different applications on screen at a single time.

MS could have still included the metro interface if they still shipped the classic Start menu as an opt-in. Yes, its the first thing 90% of users would opt-in to, but at least it wouldn't have had Windows 8 be a rotten footnote in the history of computing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I was done with Windows when the spying and built in advertising. Poor design decisions are one thing, but untrustworthy untoward actions to the user are another. The last shred of trustworthiness Micro$oft had in my eyes was was being mostly straight in Windows instead of the shady and underhanded shit. We should've seen it coming when they started offering free upgrades

[–] Narauko 1 points 10 months ago

Even worse is the loss of the basic ability to unlock the taskbar; RIP over/under monitor configurations.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

but I still can’t get over the crippled start menu

You know you can set it back to “legacy”, right? I’ve been using Win11 since it was beta and when you swap the new default gui elements back to “legacy”, it’s much better than even win 10.

[–] Jayb151 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe I’m misunderstanding the issue, but I’m reading it as a dislike for the new “modern” start menu in win11 that’s center screen and feels designed for touch interfaces?

You can disable that and turn it more like a win 7 style start menu.

[–] NoRodent 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm not talking about taskbar, I'm talking about start menu. You can change the position of the start button back to the left, which was the first thing I of course did, but you can't do anything about the start menu itself (at least without using 3rd party solutions which I generally try to avoid, not to mention they're usually not free, unless there's some secret that you know I'm unaware of). You can't change the menu's tiny size, not have the icons categorized, grouped, in different sizes with irregular placement, live tiles... You also can't drag and drop the icon onto desktop to create a shortcut there (nor is there such option in the context menu). I really liked the W10 start menu.