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Medications can help the 1 in 12 people who suffer from alcohol use disorder. But most will never be treated.

There is something that kills more Americans every year than drug overdoses, than guns, than car accidents. It’s legal, doesn’t require a background check to buy, is widely advertised, and if you’re 21, you can probably buy it at your corner store. It’s called alcohol.

While cold beers, glasses of wine, and hard liquor cocktails are often treated as end-of-the-workday or weekend indulgences, alcohol is technically a psychoactive, addictive drug, one linked to over 50 fatal conditions, including heart disease; breast, pancreatic, and stomach cancers; liver disease; hypertension; and stroke. It contributes to the death of 140,000 people in the US annually, making it one of the leading causes of preventable death in the country.

More and more research supports the conclusion that even light drinking — that is, less than 15 drinks a week for men or eight drinks a week for women — can contribute to an increased risk for heart disease and cancers. More recent medical recommendations in countries like Canada have increasingly tightened, moving toward the idea that there is no truly safe level of alcohol consumption.

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[–] jordanlund 48 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Because binge drinking isn't just accepted, it's encouraged? From fraternities and sororities, to football tailgating, to Super-Bowl parties, to Mardi Gras and Saint Patrick's Day, the public perception is if you aren't getting shitfaced, you're doing it wrong.

But there is some good news, I guess:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/beer-drinking-america-falls-lowest-level-generation-rcna131478

"For the first time since 1999, he said, beer shipments were on track to fall below 200 million barrels."

Article talks about the variety of sugary alcohol drinks pulling from beer, but I expect legal weed is taking a share as well.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Weed. Weed weed. Weed weed weed weed.

That's my take, anyway.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (4 children)

MILLIONS die from weed overuse. That's what the D.A.R.E. officer told me.

[–] SupraMario 15 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Smoking it still is terrible for your lungs though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes of course. A lot of things in life involve a balancing act of weighing pros and cons, and then trial and error.

I was one of the unlucky few who experienced suicidal thoughts when they put me on sertraline, but it's a substance that helps more people than it harms, so it's not the first thing I'd mention if someone were depressed.

I see weed as similar. Personally, I'm not the biggest fan of how it makes me feel, and there are some risks and side effects (relatively minor compared to alcohol, of course), but it helps far more people than it harms. It's really improved the quality of life for my husband with his PTSD, for example, and its side effects are actually far less unpleasant than the four meds he was on prior to the provider prescribing cannabis.

[–] SupraMario 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Don't get me wrong, I'm in no way advocating banning weed. All drugs should be legal anyways. What someone wants to do with their body is none of my business, as long as it doesn't harm me or others.

I should have clarified that alternative use of marijuana is a better substitute than smoking weed or drinking alcohol. I just don't like that a lot of people assume smoking it daily is somehow healthy for you.... it's like smoking tobacco, it's bad period. It's a vice so by all means do it how you want but there seems to be this underlying myth that people think it's not harmful at all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I just don’t like that a lot of people assume smoking it daily is somehow healthy for you

Literally no one thinks inhaling smoke is healthy. This isn't a thing people believe. It's just such a red herring when introduced in a conversation about the ravages of hard drugs like alcohol.

It's like pointing out that both carrots and snickers contain sugar.

[–] SupraMario 2 points 11 months ago

You apparently haven't been following along with the conversation....a LOT of people think it's completely fine. The trees subreddit was filled with people like this. They're logic was that they're not smoking tobacco and it's fine because no one has linked smoking marijuana with lung cancer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

The difference is that, there are ways of consuming cannabis that don't involve smoking. Edibles are a thing, and so are vaporizers (tiny convenction ovens that vaporize the cannabinioids but don't produce any nasty combustion products).

With alcohol, there is no "safer" way of consuming it. The psychoactive compound itself is physically far more damaging than THC is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Yes. Edibles all the way.

[–] smooth_tea 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Terrible is a bit relative. Cannabis smokers have a smaller chance of developing lung cancer and a higher lung capacity than non smokers. But yes it has downsides.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dry vaping seems to not bring many health issues with it - at least none that I know of.

Also tinctures or inferior edibles are an option
Why inferior? Time to take effect, hard to dosage correctly and THC is metabolized differently when solved in fat.
As alcohol solution you can dosage per drop and it hits practically immediately - pretty much as fast as alcohol orally does

[–] SupraMario 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Isn't vaping it not burning the plant but just vaporizing the oils? I have no clue on that, if so I'd say it's probably way safer than burning the plant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago
[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 8 points 11 months ago

The DARE officer also impregnated a teenager in my school.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I died after doing only one line of weed. Educate yourself. I’m literally shaking.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I’m literally shaking

It must be the weed!

[–] PeterPoopshit 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Everyone that's ever smoked weed will die someday. Weed has a 100% mortality rate. Earth has had more human deaths than than any planet in history. It's also the only planet with weed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Lol fr though. I always find it suspicious when people insist on talking about all the bad side effects of weed. Imagine every time someone mentions that aspirin can help with pain, there are immediately 5 people telling you about how it can cause bleeding ulcers.

Actually, it would make more sense with acetaminophen/paracetamol. Wanna talk about awful effects on the body, RIP liver.

[–] OrteilGenou 4 points 11 months ago

You don't say much my friend, but when you do it's to the point, and I salute you for it.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It doesn't make sense. Alcohol effects are relaxation, euphoria and inhibition. Weed only causes me panic, thirst and hungry. I hate any sort of hallucination. You can't compare the drugs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Many people have a different experience. Drugs ultimately relate to the individual, which is one thing that can make them so insidious. For me personally, weed is a million times better than alcohol. The high and head change are better. I don't get hung over. I don't hate myself after an evening of edibles.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I agree about hangovers. But just one time on 15 years of drinker I was so ashamed. I accept if you try to replace alcohol with something like xanax or another depressive but weed? Its not the same experience AT ALL...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to replicate the same experience. If I'm high on weed, I have no interest in drinking. I simply prefer the weed experience, but everyone is different.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I just want to get relaxed in my case. A good glass of whiskey (or any drink ) is enough.

[–] Psychodelic 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's so unfortunate for you, dude. You get like the exact opposite effect I (and likely most other people) get, minus the hunger and thirst. But I mean, drinking a lot makes you literally throw up (worse than bein hungry imo) and doesn't make your thirsty since you're literally drinking (so you then have to pee a ton)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

With weed i can't get out of a recurring thinking. And then I realize that i am thinking the same thing again and again. And then I got panicked because of that. And I dont like to see my friend with a dinosaur head...

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 13 points 11 months ago

Yep. Cultural.

It's a joke in movies.

It's played in commercials.

People comfortably share stories about their "binging".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

is socially accepted way to poison yourself

who use

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

It has a huge lobbying group and too many corps make too much money. I always had hope something would happen kinda like they did with tobacco.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter 2 points 11 months ago

Ahem. "Sugar forward" if you please. It's fancy.