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Google search failed to even find a hollywood movie, even after 1 hour of attempts. I don't really care about the movie, but I am terrified by the prospect that google now ceased to function on this basic level. Why is this happening?

I understand the explanations of seo and other stuff like spam content. But why are there NO relevant results at all.

I wouldn't mind having to start wading through results at page 2 or even 10 but now it utterly fails to find even the most basic things.

Things you found on the first attempt even just a year ago. Now they are effectively hidden.

To me functionally the entire internet has now vanished. I cannot access anything that I am searching for. Might as well not exist at all.

Has anybody found a way around this?

Is this on purpose? Is this an attack on the free internet, herding people to just the top 5 sites like facebook, youtube, tiktok, and so forth?

Are there search engines that still work?

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[–] CliveRosfield 177 points 11 months ago (5 children)

You can’t just write an essay like that and not tell us what terms you used for your searches

[–] diffcalculus 68 points 11 months ago

OP: "that movie, with the director"

Google: "... here's all the movies?"

OP: "noooooo"

[–] Woht24 44 points 11 months ago

Absolutely, at the very least what fucking movie

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (4 children)

This is starting to look suspicious. I have seen several threads redacted in a similar way in the last days, and all of them don't disclose the search term. When disclosed in comments everybody answer, it works ok for me. Common factor, in all threads there is advertising for paid kagi search engine. Connecting the dots, I think this is just a marketing campaign spamming lemmy forums (and probably others)

[–] CliveRosfield 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yep my thoughts as well. People getting riled up over posts with zero evidence.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

This should be higher up.... This whole topic is such a big nothing burger. OP and everyone jumping on the Google sucks bandwagon most likely just suck at using a search engine or run into shitty AI articles (which you can't really blame on your search engine of choice either....)

I personally have 0 issues to find whatever I'm looking for in 3-4 searches at most. Skill issue rather than algorithm issue imo.

[–] Kevnyon 3 points 11 months ago

I scrolled the comments and some comments are about some paid search engine, definitely seems suspicious and especially when OP didn't give us any of his search parameters.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

While i do think people are exaggerating that google is useless, and the kagi push on lemmy is suspiciously strong, I do still hate what google has become. It lies to me almost every time I ask it what movie an actor has been in.

google claims Alan Tudyk is in Andor when he isn't. There are one or two articles of people suggesting that he might end up in Andor, but nothing official. Google pulls from the rumors and says “yep, he’s clearly in Andor”. The way i search this is by typing just an actors name then clicking the “movies and tv” option.

google search

imdb for andor

imdb for alan tudyk

I refuse to pay for a search engine. DDG is alright, not great, but at least it doesnt lie to me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

I mean, they probably used quite a few permutations, if they really did try for anything close to an hour...

[–] Kevnyon 1 points 11 months ago

I tried " movie woman assassin cold war" and one of the first results was "Atomic Blonde", which is what I was trying to get at. I then searched "movie two guys solve a murder comedy", the first link was some IMDb list about comedy/murder films that also had a bunch of buddy cups cop films on it and number 19 on that list was "The Nice Guys", which is what I was getting at. I would really want to know what this guy searched for because I refuse to believe he spent an hour searching and didn't find it. I don't remember the last time that happened to me honestly. Even the two times I tried just now were pretty generic (especially the second one) and yet I found them quickly.