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Google search failed to even find a hollywood movie, even after 1 hour of attempts. I don't really care about the movie, but I am terrified by the prospect that google now ceased to function on this basic level. Why is this happening?

I understand the explanations of seo and other stuff like spam content. But why are there NO relevant results at all.

I wouldn't mind having to start wading through results at page 2 or even 10 but now it utterly fails to find even the most basic things.

Things you found on the first attempt even just a year ago. Now they are effectively hidden.

To me functionally the entire internet has now vanished. I cannot access anything that I am searching for. Might as well not exist at all.

Has anybody found a way around this?

Is this on purpose? Is this an attack on the free internet, herding people to just the top 5 sites like facebook, youtube, tiktok, and so forth?

Are there search engines that still work?

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[–] abracaDavid 16 points 11 months ago (4 children)

If it's so difficult, then why was Google able to find the answer to questions exactly like this 6+ years ago?

That was why everyone switched to Google. The search engine just worked.

And frankly a large portion of your post is just incorrect. What you've described is how a very bad programmer would build a search engine. It's overly complicated and requires too much data.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

why was Google able to find the answer to questions exactly like this 6+ years ago?

curious if there is any way to know for sure if this is the case? is there documentation of vague google searches over time to track their results? sort of seems like a "don't know what you got til it's gone" sort of thing for the average user. but maybe there is some academic work or industry publications to this effect?

We do have a good 10-20 years of every news story intro containing a line like "a google search for 'spatula' returns 2.5million results". remember when journalists and other writers thought that just putting a single search term into a search engine was the way to conduct online research?

otherwise it is really just your recollection how it felt then vs now. i can't comment on @[email protected]'s programing skills but the point about changing expectations is a good one. not to mention that the amount of available data has exploded.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I doubt there's any way to tell. Google probably has "search quality" phrases that they plug into it to track their quality over time, but those are probably secret, and most of them are probably not vague searches that you wouldn't expect to work.

I really doubt Google was able to do this 6+ years ago. From what I remember, 6+ years ago, we were still trying to use specific words or phrases we expected to see on the page we wanted to find, or at least phrases we expected to see on pages that linked to the page we wanted to see.

[–] Iceman 9 points 11 months ago

Exactly, this is some of the weirdest gushing i ever seen for a product that is at the worse state it's been in decades.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is why at work I just use Bing and edge, slightly better results, and you can say things like "I just binged that and now I am edging so hard right now" to your coworker

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

bing does NOT have slightly better results

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Wait how are u pronouncing binged

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

I love how readily people are to say shit like "bad programmer". I bet most the time the person saying it is either not even a "programmer" or is so average they feel the need to belittle others.

Who even uses the word "programmer" to describe a contemporary software engineer anyway? I don't think that job really exists anymore.