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Electrify All the Big, Noisy, Belching Trucks (www.nytimes.com)
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[–] Hildegarde 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're straw-manning me because my argument was specifically about long haul trucking. Short haul trucks can be electrified. This is why both Kennworth and Peterbult have short haul electric trucks that they sell and you can buy right now. There is currently is no manufacturer currently selling electric trucks with a sleeper cab in the US.

In the US, most long haul freight is carried by trucks. Freight rail exists but its market share has been dwindling for decades, and none of it is electrified. Electrifying all trucks in the US, as advocated by the article is non-viable. Long haul freight should be handled by rail instead of trucks, because that is a technology that exists and can be built.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

When you say:

Electrifying the trucks will not solve the problem. Batteries don’t have the energy density to work for long haul trucks.

I understood:

Electric trucks do not contribute at all to a green transport system, as batteries do not have the energy density for long haul trucking.

The article is about banning trucks the sale of fossil fuel trucks by 2030, so that is imho extremly easy to missunderstand.