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Reddit migrator here (shocking, I know)

Just wondering because I found out about all this yesterday and just realized the ammount of independent servers, but no sign of any ads or sponsors. So... is it all based on donations?

Also don't just lurk, if you know you should answer because lemmy only counts users who posted or commented as active users.

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[–] Twilight 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure Lemmy has been designed specifically so it can't me monetized. If you try to place ads people can just switch to another instance. If you try to split off from the fediverse I'm pretty sure there's enough data on other instances in order to clone your server along with its content (and mind that you don't own the copyright for posts made by users).

[–] Hexophile 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would go as far as to say the point is that it’s not for profit. Profit incentive ruins everything, most of all online services and platforms.

[–] Twilight 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's more than just "not for profit" - there was actual effort to make this platform as difficult to monetize as possible (probably as a lesson learned from Reddit lol). Let's begin with the code - it's under AGPL, which means you can't set up a public Lemmy instance without making its code public. This prevents you from creating an improved version and keeping it to yourself to gain an advantage over other instances. Second, the fediverse means that it's less likely for a single instance to become so big that it can unfederate itself without consequences, and while you're federated you can't really place ads - people would just view your community on another instance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't agree - while you could copy it, if an instance gathered a large user base and had some well-implemented quality of life features, there's nothing stopping them from putting ads on it and I'd guess that most users would continue to use that instance. If it has quality content, they already have an account, and it has compelling improvements over other instances, I can't imagine that some unobtrusive ads would bother people enough to go to a clone of that instance and create another account.

Sure, it could be done, and ad blockers are common enough, but I don't think well-placed ads would cause some mass exodus. I'd even be okay with it if it's in the name of paying the server bills for such an instance.

[–] Twilight 1 points 1 year ago

As long as it remains federated, you can access the content of one instance from another, so why would I keep using an ad-infested instance if I can access the exact same content from another instance? And if said instance decides to unfederate itself it means that every user that was coming from another instance will have to re-register, which not everyone will be willing to do. This can only happen if a single instance grows so big that it doesn't need "support" from other instances anymore. I hope that never happens tbh, I don't want another /u/spez ever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think part of a system like the fediverse is that it only needs to annoy one person enough that they go get the code and make an ad free clone. Then people could just migrate over. Especially once we have beeter tool to be able to move accounts across instances