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[–] Tedesche -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What I meant is that this incident didn’t really happen because of some sort of systemic gun control problem. Everyone was being responsible with regards to gun control, it’s just that some kids made a dumb decision and some parents weren’t around to intervene. It doesn’t matter how robust your gun control laws are; there will always be some tragedies. I’m all for stricter gun control laws in the U.S., but that’s not going to result in zero gun fatalities. I sin ppl y honk it’s worthwhile to accept it when shit happens despite everyone doing reasonable things to prevent it and not blaming every gun death on gun laws.

[–] Crashumbc 4 points 1 year ago

Everyone was being responsible with regards to gun control, it’s just that some kids made a dumb decision and some parents weren’t around to intervene.

Um, "everyone was being responsible" and "parents weren't around" are exclusionary statements. It's impossible to be both with guns (even air guns).

[–] lennybird 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Except you prove the point.

  • Everyone was being responsible.
  • If gun control was incorporated, responsible people wouldn't have guns at this moment in time. (many irresponsible people wouldn't either by the laws of supply & demand but that's beside the point here)
  • Thus, the child would be alive.
[–] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago

I think you could argue that any gun incident isn't the result of a "systemic gun control problem," gun control just prevents things. It's a little confusing to say, but a lack of gun control isn't a root cause of gun problems, it's just a solution to them (and an objectively good one imo).

While I understand your point, and think it's fair, I'd add that a part of gun control is the proper education of gun owners such that they have the thought patterns necessary to consider these sorts of possibilities, and to take action to prevent them. It's a big part of the system here, obtaining a gun licence involves training that fundamentally alters your view of responsible gun use.

That said, I'm not going to pretend that gun control would have prevented this, but it should reduce its likelihood.