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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how many of them actually read the decision, and how many are just depending on what's filtered through journalistic agendas?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The complete decision is over 200 pages of lawyer talk. I'm going to bet approximately 0, including you.

[–] ook_the_librarian 3 points 6 months ago

Actually reading the opinion is a pretty high bar. It seems unnecessary as well. I'd rather know who can summarized various key arguments made by the sides.

It'd be cool if some polls started with a quiz on some relevant uncontroversial facts, asked questions, then reported results based broken up by competence on the quiz.

I don't care how many Democrats believe it's right; I want to know how informed people think.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

I read it. It's not lawyer talk.

Edit: And I have the chat log here where I was talking with a friend about the high points while I read it. Started Tuesday 12/19 5:45p CT, ended just before 900p the same evening.

[–] SpaghettiYeti 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Let's say it's 200 pages even. You took a little less than a minute per page to read, think about, and type about topics with your friend?

Methinks dishonesty afoot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm not the person above, but actually go look at the pages. It's double spaced, wide margins, and sometimes up to half a page taken up by citations. Not that it's exactly going to be a speedy read, but it'll be way faster than like 200 pages might seem. The supreme court margins if you've ever looked at those rulings get especially ridiculous, each page is like a quarter of a page. Tiny bit of text floating in the middle of a mostly empty page. Not sure why they format them that way. Anyways, they're long, but not as long as the page totals imply. A minute per page isn't unreasonable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There’s a lot of citations throughout that can be skipped over.

[–] littlebluespark -3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Compelling rebuttal. So, you're saying you skimmed it?

edit: was meant in jest, my apologies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Not what I'm saying at all. There are certainly parts that I read more lightly than others, because they had to do with what the district court did and said (as well as other background and history I'm already familiar with), and I'd already read that. The three dissenting opinions are at the end; the majority opinion addressed every single misplaced concern in those, so those weren't terribly demanding (or well written), either.

When I had the thought of my original comment here, it's because I'd read it, and I was only confident to make such a comment because I'd read it.

There's not a ton I can say to "prove" anything to anyone here, but I am the person who made a place for posting such documents, which should indicate my interest. This ruling is one of the most important court rulings in American history. I saw the articles talking about it, went to documentcloud to find it, posted it, settled in to read it.

[–] BigWheelPowerBrakeSlider 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] BigWheelPowerBrakeSlider 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can anyone tell me how I can delete the two accidental posts I made above?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

if you are on the web, you should see three little dots below your post. You can click those, and it will give you a dropdown menu with a delete option.

[–] BigWheelPowerBrakeSlider 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thank you! The mod must have deleted it for me, but thank you for responding and helping.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Woohoo! Yeah I want Lemmy to succeed, so I think it's good to support the community in little ways where possible.