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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Can I just realize I am a human with weaknesses and strengths, loves and hates, bias and judgements but knows that if I am aware that the judgements and bias are there that I can set them aside to be fair to all when needed?

I don't really want to do drugs, even if they will open my brain to the universe. I'm not ready to deal with my shit right now. I'd rather just be nice to everyone except obvious assholes, who I will just keep at a distance for my own sake.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nope strong psychedelics are mandatory now.

But seriously I am not by any means advocating psychedelics as any sort of solution to anything. My own experiences with psychedelics have not always been good and if folks don't think it's right for them they should absolutely trust that feeling.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.

  • Hunter S Thompson

I didn't really develop a personality of my own until I went balls deep into psychedelics and dissociatives in my 20's, and even then it wasn't until I started having "bad" experiences. That first bad LSD trip was rough, but it changed how I saw myself and my place in the world in a fundamental way. So many molecules, so many memories.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I can deeply relate with this! The most extreme "bad" trip I ever had completely changed the way I saw my life.

I was headed down a bad road, and had become content with my shitty lot in life. That trip made me face the fact that I was unhappy and was going to continue become more and more unhappy until I did something about it.

Over a decade later, I am much happier with myself and my environment. Thank you LSD! You changed me life!

[–] Saltblue -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There are really no bad trips it's "bad" because we are in denial of what is showing us, and that conflict creates the "bad trip"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A) False. I wasn't "in denial" when I had my first legitimate bad trip. That's what made it so cathartic. I was suddenly faced with thoughts and emotions I wasn't even aware of.

B) That's kind of a dumb thing to say: "There's no such thing as a bad trip, but things can make a trip go bad."?

If your set and setting send you into a bad place, that is the LITERAL definition of the phrase "bad trip". Ergo, bad trips are a thing.

Thats like saying "there's no such thing as - 'contaminated water'. There's water which is tainted by chemicals or inorganic compounds which creates 'contaminated water' ". How it came to be contaminated is irrelevant in that context. It's still contaminated.

You're gatekeeping a psychedelic experience, and for what?

[–] nomous 2 points 1 year ago

Because they're some 20yr old wannabe psychonaut with extremely limited experience with drugs or mental healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dangerous advice. It is possible to have a psychotic break from psychedelics. But yes most bad trips are "difficult" or anxiety attacks rather than all bad.

[–] Saltblue -1 points 1 year ago

It's not advice it's my opinion, but yeah no everyone has enough mental fortitude, so don't take my experience as baseline.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There are difficult trips like you're describing, where it's unpleasant but there's something to learn from it. And having the mindset you describe can remind you to look for the meaning in that kind of situation. But there are in fact truly bad trips, where there is no readeemable aspect of it, it's just pure unnecessary suffering. And that's not even getting to people who have a psychotic break

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I'm sure there are plenty of good ways to get high, I smoked a lot of weed back in the day but I'd rather just be completely sober now.

I spent 32 years of my life sleeping horribly, my brain literally doesn't tell my lungs to breathe, I got a CPAP at 32 and for the first time felt truly awake. It was probably the most clarifying feeling I've ever felt in my life. I don't think I want to fuck with my brain now that I have it operating about as good as it ever will.

[–] z00s 14 points 1 year ago

Sounds like you've already done the self realization bit, no need to do drugs

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Drug-induced psychedelic experiences are certainly not the only path to self-reflection and developing deeper self-awareness (in fact, for some people, they may not have that effect at all). You're ok to pass on the peyote if you don't feel it would be beneficial.

Edit: I will say, though, that I think everyone should set trials to better understand themselves and push at their perceived limits and baselines. Drug-induced psychedelic experiences can be pretty accessible trials in this sense, again for some. Ain't the only way, though.