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How many of you run a Linux phone (Pine64, Librem etc) as your daily driver? (self.linux)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by MigratingtoLemmy to c/[email protected]

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I was going through Pine64's page again after I found the latest KDE announcement. With that said, I seem to see a lot of issues with firmware on the Pine, whilst the Librem is just plain out of budget for me. Was interested in how many people here run a Linux mobile as a daily driver, and how has your experience been?

I'm considering purchasing the Pine but I'd like a better screen, more RAM and a better CPU. Don't know if I should wait for a new model to be released (are they even planning to do that? Is the company active?). I will only really use it to browse the Web, and might even look to desolder a couple of parts that I know I won't use.

Thanks.

Edit: I am willing to watch content and use banking apps from the browser. Do you think it'll be fit for me?

Edit 2: overall, I am much saddened about the state of affairs regarding private computing on the go. I desperately hope that Linux on mobile takes off, even though its incubation looks disheartening at the moment. Thank you everyone for your comments.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Performance and bugs might still be a problem with these relatively young projects. But if all you need is a browser I do believe it might be worth a shot.

In the EU 2FA for banking is required by law which usually comes down to either an Android/iOS app or a chipTAN device. That's why browser isn't an option for me. Sadly I don't think waydroid passes the basicIntegrity check of AOSP [1], so emulation is out of the picture too.

[1] https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps

[–] JubilantJaguar 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Banking 2FA can be done by SMS too, which is secure enough.

A world in which banking requires us to install spyware on our mobile computers is not a world we should accept.

[–] ritchie 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sms is not as secure as a 2FA app or the bank's own app. SMS verfification also costs money, so it will raise your monthly fees quite much if you wish to receive a text on every transaction.

[–] JubilantJaguar 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As I said, SMS is secure enough without being the nightmare of a proprietary spyware app. As for fees, you have an American perspective, in most of the world SMS has been free to send for decades, and was always free to receive. The ideal solution is indeed a 2FA app, but those never took off.

[–] ritchie 1 points 11 months ago

I have a European perspective and here you need to pay per text message. Receiving is free, but the bank is charged and they put their charge on me, so they bill me for the messages, unfortunately. In the US SMS is free in most plans as I know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

My bank disagrees that SMS tan is secure enough 2FA and doesn't support it.