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This has been a hot topic for conservatives. I fully support Ukraine, but at some point, they have to say they can't push Russia out. Ukraine does not have the manpower or firepower to dislodge Russia. They've tried and failed. Western support is starting to go down because they have not made progress.

I don't know the solution, but right now, it's just a war of attrition, and Ukraine loses in that scenario. I suspect this will be a big topic of discussion during the presidential debates.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Russia is way likelier to collapse first.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You would think. The major issue is Ukraine has a much smaller population. They cannot sustain the losses even if they are half of Russia.

General Milley has stated he thinks the losses are about equal, which would be devastating for Ukraine.

I thought when the counter offensive started, the Russian lines would collapse fairly quickly. They have not. They have held up to the attacks well.

I also thought Russia would run out of ammo but that hasn't seemed to have happened either. NATO is having a hard time keeping up the production to support Ukraine. Yet, somehow Russia seems to keep getting ammo. I know North Korea has sent them some but that is garbage ammo.

Ukraine can't win a war of attrition. They just don't have the manpower for it. For whatever reason, the Russians seem to have more willpower than I would have expected. This isn't their war.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The major issue is Ukraine has a much smaller population. They cannot sustain the losses even if they are half of Russia.

But the losses so far are roughly proportionally equal.

General Milley has stated he thinks the losses are about equal, which would be devastating for Ukraine.

Proportionally equal.

NATO is having a hard time keeping up the production to support Ukraine.

It's war. It sucks. That's just how it is.

But if a struggling supply chain means that Russia can't do as many war crimes and rapes, I'm ok with that.

Ukraine can’t win a war of attrition.

Russia thought they'd collapse within weeks. Ukraine has surpassed the wildest expectations.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But the losses so far are roughly proportionally equal

According to Milley; they’re almost the same. That’s not good for Ukraine as Russia has a much larger population

But if a struggling supply chain means that Russia can’t do as many war crimes and rapes, I’m ok with that

Not sure you understand the issue. It means Ukraine is going to run out of ammo and won’t be able to fight back. Ukraine is consuming more ammo than nato can produce. After years of democrats cutting defense. We don’t have the capability to fight a real war. With the more advanced systems, we can’t just spin up a factory overnight. It’s a serious issue.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to Milley; they’re almost the same. That’s not good for Ukraine as Russia has a much larger population

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/proportional

Not sure you understand the issue. It means Ukraine is going to run out of ammo and won’t be able to fight back

People have been saying that since the war started. Yawn.

After years of democrats cutting defense.

NATO isn't solely controlled by democrats. You are severely lacking in understanding of how NATO works.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Maybe you have kept up on th me need. Ukraine is rationing ammo because they are low. That’s a new development.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/ukraine-forced-ration-ammunition-us-aid-impasse

NATO isn’t sending the bulk of the supplies. The United States is. Most of nato had already run low on artillery rounds. That’s America doing the heavy lifting which has been cut over years of democrats saying we spend to much of defense.