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All the ingredients are there and it won't take much to put it all together.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago (99 children)

For there to be a civil war there needs to be an army on both sides.

There isn't

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (25 children)

The states have armies. That is the national guard. Some states have defense forces as well.

So if we have a civil war, there are plenty of armies to go around.

I hear lots of rumblings about a civil war but I don’t think we are close to one. You hear it from all sides. California wants to leave. Texas wants to lead. East Oregon wants to join Idaho.

I just see people bitching as they always do.

While I may dislike my current president. I’m not going to pick up a rifle for any of these jokers to try to change my government. Overall our system works. Something drastic would have to happen to change my mind.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001 14 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Overall our system works

I was with you all the way till right here.

The system does not work when corruption is pretty standard especially in the higher levels.

[–] OrteilGenou 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Are there any systems that work within an environment of standard and widespread corruption though?

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it's called actually following checks and balances.

The main issue is humans are naturally corrupted by power. Due to that fact we need a system that actually upholds the rules for the people in power. This whole notion that someone in a position of authority can get away with breaking any laws or rules is the problem. People with power should be held to a higher standard and extremely scrutinized. Even the smallest mistakes should be blasted throughout the news reels and should have immediate punishment.

When you're actually willing and able to punish the corrupt people in your system you lower the amount of corruption overall.

But for some reason most people think that people with authority are untouchable and as a result they practically are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's what we were going for. Thing is, any "system* of checks and balances is composed of the corrupt individuals it's designed to check and balance. Sociopaths gravitate to positions of power, and are really great at campaigning for them.

What's your alternative to the present system, sortition?

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