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More scientific evidence has surfaced to show that while mittens may be your sweet angel, letting her roam outside is also a big threat to biodiversity.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

despite opinions from random people on the internet.

I imagine you’re saying:

due to my own cost-benefit analysis: I’m an animal lover, and I love kitty slightly more than birdie, but in a perfect world kitty would be inside so birdie could live safely outside.

This allows for responses to more accurately target your calculation. Hopefully it would feel less personal, though who knows.

But if you dispute #Cat/BirdFacts, then I’m mistaken!

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No, I meant it as presented.

My vets and I have all observed that his health has dramatically improved by being outdoors, and therefore the observations, approval and advice of the persons actually involved with my cat are what will be trusted, and the opinions and disapproval of all the angry randos who have had no participation in keeping him alive will have zero weight or importance, because wtf do they really know about it?

And if my elderly cat, who cannot climb trees because his claws are kept trimmed for being indoors, manages to somehow catch a bird, then good on him and he deserves it, and that bird should have used the power of flight, which my cat does not possess. But it hasn’t happened yet, and probably won’t.

That’s what I meant. How any adult here decides to handle this reality is up to them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Readers only know what you tell ‘em. Your “my kitty” is “generic feline” to others until more context is provided.

It does sound like you would keep generic feline inside, given the veterinarian consensus is reducing the number of free-ranging cats is good for cats and birds. And you go by the vet. Sensible, many would agree.

RE: “survival of the fittest” (e.g. organisms best adjusted to their environment win out, being most successful in surviving and reproducing) - want to be careful not to misapply that thinking to justify human-influenced scenarios.

The scale and impact of cats hunting in environments where they are not native is more an example of humans disrupting local ecosystems than natural selection. Arguing animals are responsible for their own survival against domesticated predators is ethically contentious. But when everything’s natural I’m with ya on the merit-based view of predation.

The randos might be less angry if you were immediately up front about extenuating circumstances. Not all of them! But doubtless some will attack an inaccurate idea of you simply having a personal preference, whereafter you’ll feel attacked for “keeping [your cat] alive.” And that’s no good! Waste of time and needless raising of blood pressure :)

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m not reading all that. I truly don’t care.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You’re being good to your cat

Re-introspect bird vs. domesticated predator

You’re catching flak in part for the way you comment

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago

I feel like this 3rd comment

https://reddthat.com/comment/5600053

provided all the pertinent information for anyone to understand that something medically different is going on here, and that maybe mental health for a cat isn’t so easy as just playing with them and giving them attention.

Meanwhile, prior to that I’m already being told that I’m an irresponsible pet owner who doesn’t deserve a pet, so anyone who has a problem with my tone after that is welcome to fly here and take a number to suck my ass.

Thank you for appearing to not be one of those people, and providing a more concise thing for me to respond to, it’s appreciated.