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Looking at you Ionic, Tauri, ... (lemmy.kde.social)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 130 points 11 months ago (10 children)

A pile of HTML + JS is the only cross platform GUI toolkit that's practical to deploy.

I'm not really happy about it myself, but realistically there's not any other option than just bundling a website into a wrapper.

And to pre-empt any replies; your proposed solution must support Windows, Linux (X11 and Wayland), MacOS, iPhone, Android, Chromium and Firefox.

[–] hansl 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Java, of course. /s

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

3 billion devices can't be wrong!

[–] hansl 29 points 11 months ago

Real talk; if Java didn’t have their head up their own arses, it would have been the real solution. But Oracle does what Oracle does.

Do not anthropomorphize Larry Ellison.

[–] Carighan 20 points 11 months ago

And to pre-empt any replies; your proposed solution must support Windows, Linux (X11 and Wayland), MacOS, iPhone, Android, Chromium and Firefox.

If you are a website, that's easy, you are actually making the correct choice with Electron insofar that you want a browser.

If you're doing an application not a webpage, then we're walking W+L+Mac+Phones, that's more tricky. I'm assuming for a second you want a usable UI (otherwise we'd be using Electron again :P ) so we're talking two applications at least, one for mobile, one for desktop + maybe iPads.

And then it's usually already too pricey to bother:

Web frontend devs are far cheaper than application developers.
Might as well just do a website, runs in everything. Only need to develop once.
Updating is immediate with a website, don't have to do any deployment/upgrade/downgrade plans.

[–] PixxlMan 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I think Flutter and Avalonia both tick all those boxes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does Avalonia support Wayland? Last time I checked it wasn't complete yet.

[–] PixxlMan 6 points 11 months ago

Just checked, and unfortunately no, Wayland is still in preview.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Why is Firefox a 'platform'? I'm assuming chromium is for chromeOS devices, but I don't know of any device that just runs Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

they probably meant web versions of the app that run both on chromium and gecko (firefox) browser engines

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

As Communism said, yeah I was ment a web application. No need to spend dev time working on a different version of your app if you can just reuse the web version.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

If you count browser engines, don't forget Webkit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Avalonia and Uno Platform if you are working with C#

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I know the guy working on makepad is trying to solve this problem along with vr headsets, Apple tv, etc. It's really painful because of dependency bloat messing with build times so he ended up rewriting a bunch of things 🤷‍♂️.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Raylib.

[–] EqMinMax 1 points 11 months ago

qt?

[–] replicat 1 points 11 months ago

JUCE is weirdly capable of non-audio related UIs and runs on all these platforms.