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Crushed? Or drove away tons of OC creators and active members leaving a bot filled wasteland?
I mean, it's a victory if they shout it loudly enough, right? A lie repeated long enough, so it goes:
Company is going bankrupt, users are gone, laying off the bottom quartile of the company, but they stopped the protest! Etc.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Reddit_API_controversy
https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/reddits-golden-geese-foul-up-its-ipo-plans-2023-06-16/
It's like reading the top two lines of a disaster report and declaring victory. Fuck Reddit.
Even during the protest a lot of users thought it was caused by "power-mad" mods, some people just eat what they're fed.
It’s more of a Plato’s cave situation. You only know what you see.
Only partially, it was stated in lots of places and ways that it was in protest of the API pricing changes, and of the reaction of Reddit admins.
Well, I still visit Reddit once a week since there are communities there that don't yet exist here (or they are nearly empty).
I'm now all the time on Lemmy and am even much more active than what I ever was on Reddit, but I only have so much time.
I noticed there are slightly less quality posts in some subreddits, but I wouldn't call Reddit crushed.
In fact, subscribers in all the subreddits I used to follow are actually up and even by a lot, while Lemmy users don't really seem to increase by much (though I'd like them to).
I'd like to see a sudden growth in Lemmy and fall of Reddit, but I don't think it's anywhere near (though I'll keep doing my part here!)
The comments on Reddit are way worse now, it's extremely noticeable. Look at comments on /r/science for example. They're all shitty jokes which used to get deleted.
The vast majority of subs are completely unmoderated now or taken over by a small group of people. Like /r/worldnews allowing people to openly support literal genocide of Arabs.
Reddit quality absolutely took a hit after this debacle.
Reddit always had a problem with far right/anti science dogwhistlers, but it also seems like it's gotten much worse. Maybe I was just desensitized and I'm noticing it more because I don't go there much, or maybe it is actually worse because it's an election year, but it also wouldn't surprise me if the .01% of frequent commentors who left full-time for Lemmy represent a significant brain drain.
not just you, it is significantly worse. And many have been banned for reporting hate
not to mention the continued guarantee of enshittification. We've only just seen the beginning of their pursuit of short term profits at the expense of their core value: the userbase.
Ah, I hadn't noticed this level of worsening. I suppose because when I visit I still go to niche subreddits and there the impact is less noticeable (but you do notice it).
I suppose great moderators have left the platform and they've been replaced by others who would like to be as good (but are crippled by new Reddit rules allowing many more trolls) or those that just don't care or are straight crazy!
Wasn't there like a bot defense team that published a ban list or something but they just gave up during the exodus?
I don't. Let the idiots stay on reddit. Leave lemmy how it is. Is it so terrible that one might have to visit reddit to find some niche communities?
I don't disagree with you!
I just would like to see certain niche communities grow here too because Lemmy is great and (so far) it feels like the conversations here are nicer, so I'd like people to move here to make Lemmy even better
Fair point.
There's nothing wrong with Lemmy growing in an organic sustainable way, but I dislike the attitude that lemmy ought to be a reddit replacement or that lemmy should grow from the ashes of reddit.
Lemmy should be it's own thing with it's own culture and history and communities.
I get a bit peeved when lemmy users (not necessarily you) get a bit obsessive about transferring communities to lemmy from reddit. Just focus on creating good content for Lemmy and forget about the rest.
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Crushed. Lots lots more of over at reddit as well as a smaller percent reposting.
Lemmys front page is a ton of bots reposting content from Reddit.
Neither of the services have a lot of OC.
It took a couple weeks but I've found that blocking some bot accounts and adjusting the sorting on the app I use has plenty of fresh content with active posts. It isn't exactly the same as reddit in its prime, but I shouldn't expect it to be either.
It's causing me to branch out into other topics and conversations that I probably would've missed on a gigantic platform like reddit. I think reddit made it easy to see interesting content because of how long it had to develop into a community. Lemmy is still a bit jumbled and fragmented, but the community seems to be sticking around and forming a new identity apart from reddit.
Mind sharing which bots to block? Some bots are useful, so I'd rather not hide all bots.
If I did that I'd feel obligated to remove the user accounts I've blocked from my list before posting it and frankly that isn't worth the time or the trouble since I'd have to manually recheck all the accounts to see why I blocked them. No thanks lol.
I think it's pretty easy to replicate what I did with minimal effort though. All I really did was change the 'all' page in my Lemmy app (Boost) sorting to the newest posts. It becomes obvious pretty quickly when a couple communities have 4+ most recent posts, by the same accounts, etc. Most of the bots that exclusively repost reddit content are very obvious with just a couple clicks.
Once I had the worst offending reddit reposters blocked I noticed certain community/instance/users were either spamming content I'll never care about or were NSFW bots, or were too region specific, etc. so I blocked them too. I spent a day or two doing more blocking than browsing.
After that I changed the sorting on the 'all' page to active posts, which at that point was mostly posts by real people again. From there I've only had to block the odd account here and there like I would on any other social platform. Every so often I'll notice a bot post that's slipped through but if the community is active someone else has usually posted something similar that's getting more interaction anyways, so I don't feel like I'm missing out on much I'd be interested in or the stories that are actually newsworthy.
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]
Yeah, turns out the lawless fediverse needs a few laws and a governing board.