this post was submitted on 07 Dec 2023
365 points (97.7% liked)

World News

38975 readers
2208 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We do have a societal problem. We also very much have a gun problem.

And proposing all these other things you know won't get accomplished is a way to shift all the responsibility away from the gun issue itself.

And you aren't being emotional about even the thought of some more gun control or anything to even tackle that issue head on? Come on.

[–] SupraMario 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It might be because I'm not delusional about why we have the violence in the first place. I'm proposing things that actually would make a difference, another AWB or mag cap/mag ban/etc is emotional policies that will not put a single dent in our gun violence... I'm not the one kicking the can down the road, you are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I personally didn't propose any of those policies. I genuinely don't know what would work best. I just think you are being really transparent in treating the guns themselves as having nothing to do with the issue of gun violence.

I think everything you were saying would be great to accomplish. It's just really disingenuous to propose them knowing there is a slim chance any of them will happen while completely ignoring the actual guns, just because you want to keep your guns.

[–] SupraMario 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The statistics and other countries show that violence is mainly driven by poverty and ignorance. Work on those two main things, and you slow the violence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

And most other countries also have much stricter gun control laws too.

We could work on those things and the gun problem too.

So again, you are being very transparent by completely disregarding the guns as if they somehow aren't part of the gun violence problem.

Either way. I think this is where I drop out of this. We are going in circles and while I agree we should work on the things you mention, we clearly just disagree about the actual guns themselves. And of course neither of us are actually in a direct position to make changes to any of those things, I assume. So you have a good one.