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At Open Source Summit Japan, Linux and Git creator Linus Torvalds talked about Rust in Linux, Linux maintainer fatigue, and AI's future role in Linux and open-source development.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That said, Torvalds continued, "Rust has not really shown itself as the next great big thing. But I think during next year, we'll actually be starting to integrate drivers and some even major subsystems that are starting to use it actively. So it's one of those things that is going to take years before it's a big part of the kernel. But it's certainly shaping up to be one of those."

I don't know about that, languages which are based on standards (c++ , javascript, c) seem to have much better enduring popularity, i don't want to see rust becoming less and less popular which will lead to less available developers (like what is happening with ruby).

[–] hansl 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I assumed that he was talking about the fact the the languages he listed have a lot of syntax in common with each other, and with a few other languages. I could be wrong though

[–] GustavoM 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I too can't wait to compile the kernel (and its modules) on cargo.

[–] ikidd 7 points 1 year ago

I'll prep my supercomputer.

[–] jaybone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah… rust in the kernel scares me. Lol they are already worried about not having enough contributors, so…?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

they = rust or the linux kernel?

The linux kernel doesn't have enough contributors because it's really difficult + the entire organisational side of it works on antique tech (IRC and mailinglists). The majority of the project itself is also in C which has a horrible developer experience: linting, documentation, debugging, code completion, and the lack of a proper IDE. The entire development cycle is convoluted. How do you seriously want to attract people to the project if everything looks like it's still in a development cycle of the 90s?

If I were to discover a one-line bug in the kernel by reading it, actually testing the one-line fix would take me, as a newbie probably a solid week. Getting it into the kernel itself would probably take even longer.

The kernel is also known for Linus' outbursts and being filled with neckbeard elitists. The project in my eyes has an image problem.

As for rust, if that's what you meant, I'd be interested in knowing the source for not having enough contributors.