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[–] ClopClopMcFuckwad 11 points 1 year ago (30 children)

That's great, but the Federal government is forecasting 1.5million new immigrants in the next 3 years.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (26 children)

I love how the conservatives fixate so fucking hard on the imm'grints without acknowledging the need for them and the need for housing to simply support people living longer without paying into cpp/oap.

It must be refreshing to know that for every problem it's either hyper-educated immigrants, refugees, or just the poors' fault somehow, and that magically a strong bootstraps policy will trickle golden mana down from the aristocracy.

A thousand times it'll be wrong, but they're confident this time it'll be right.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (22 children)

To play devil's advocate here, surely the issue isn't the fact of immigration but the amount happening each year that is worrying? They're adding 0.6 Winnipegs per year of people without, you know, adding any cities, infrastructure, hospitals, schools, etc to handle the influx. If people can't find a home now, how does adding more people solve that issue?

Edit: to clarify, I have no issue with immigration or immigrants, Canada's history is all about immigration. Just questioning the rate per year without additional work going into upgrading current infrastructure.

2nd edit: to run some numbers, BC currently has 5,000,879 out of Canada's 36,991,981 or 13.5% of the population. If that proportion continues over the next decade, BC will see an approximate increase of 600,750 out of 4,450,000 people based of of this plan (assuming the grown maintains its linear growth). If you divide 600,750 people by 293,000 new units you get 2.05 people per unit, therefore if the people immigrating are bringing their family and living more than 2 people per unit you will see a net surplus of housing, but single people will see a net loss or break even of housing.

All of this is to say, it appears they have planned to create enough housing for the people projected to come here, but not a substantial amount to increase the overall supply. It would appear it will maintain the status quo.

[–] voluble 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree - if there is a big-picture target for growth, it's so important that there are strong lines of communication and collaboration between citizens, cities, provinces, and the federal government if it's going to work.

To the poster above you - Trickle-down is a thoroughly shitty "Β―_(ツ)_/Β―"-style policy. But so is any decree from above that lacks clear objectives, regularly measured outcomes, and checkpoints with the citizens. Our system is struggling right now when we reach checkpoint moments. Discussions get railroaded into these 'oh that's racist' or 'oh we should have 0 immigration' polarities. Discussing these things is worthwhile & good.

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