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[–] Son_of_dad 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As a North American, Europe should have been dealing with Russia since 2014 at least, but refused to. Cause Europe doesn't really give a shit about Ukranian people. They're helping now cause it's so close to home, but they let it get this bad.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Yes. Our leaders should've pushed Russia back in 2014. This cannot be denied.

But we've also been the main theatre of two world wars that left our cities in ruins and we're still clearing old munitions from our lands - the destruction of life and material was immense. North America has never seen such level of human suffering and I hope you never will. Wanting to avoid a third world war by all means necessary is imperative for us, even so much that is has undermined this goal by emboldening the eternal enemy, Russia.

One also should remember that Europe is neither a country or a nation. Nor is the EU a federation like the US. Just one country can block extremely important decisions - like Hungary is doing while licking Putin's boots, because their greedy leader wants to keep buying cheap Russian gas and oil to keep his voters happy. EU also includes many countries who have never trusted Russia and never will.

The price of peace is eternal vigilance. Many of us had forgotten this simple truth and now Ukraine is paying the price.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’re helping now cause it’s so close to home, but they let it get this bad.

Man, so did we. In any given moment, there are a thousand international crises, and just as many domestic ones. I'm not gonna fault Europe for not being on top of things any more than I'd fault us.

[–] TheMusicalFruit 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will, it’s in their backyard.

[–] Redditgee 11 points 1 year ago

We could all stop pointing fingers and give Ukraine what it needs.