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So pay raises for 22 years without the union, or pay raises for 5 years with the union...
Yeah that's cool, yay for "progress"...
Are you dense? You're making the top pay rate 5 years in vs 22 years in. That's 17 extra years of getting paid at the top rate. That's a lot of money.
That's like saying a Lamborghini is worse than a Honda because you don't spend as much time accelerating in the Lambo.
Lol what a great analogy!
Man some people will say anything to make a union sound bad
No... That means you hit the proverbial glass ceiling at 5 years. It means you contractually cannot be valued any higher past the 5 year mark...
Why the hell would you stay? On your 5th anniversary, your options to progress any further are all elsewhere...
Do you seriously expect that you'll be valued the same as someone with decades of experience? No... That's not what they're doing... They're valuing decades of experience at the 5 year mark... I'm saying they just removed the ability to trade the Honda in for a Lambo...
You’re suggesting that the scale should never get bigger as a whole too. So for a quarter century the bottom and the top of the pay grades should never change.
You are saying raises should only happen in a fixed scale that stays put for decades.
Wage stagnation.