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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by rokzoi to c/android
 

Are you guys tired of the "Material You" design? I don't really like the huge paddings on everything aspect of it. Also a lot of it feels too flat. What do you guys think?

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[–] Zeus 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

personal opinion, i think padding is worse for delineating objects than a bit of colour; or just, like, a line. look at this example - there are four distinct segments on the left, whereas on the right they all merge into one and a half

padding is really useful, yes, but if you put padding on everything then what's there to be separated?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The one on the right looks like different buttons and that everything is clickable. A quick glance shows you different elements and you can easily find what you're looking for. An example of form and function working together.

The one on the left looks like a text area showing different symbols. A quick glance shows you a blue area and a white area. Seems like you need that extra moment to find what you want because everything looks the same. An example of function over form.

Cramming a lot of things together isn't always good (probably it's just bad in general) because it just makes things confusing and ends up wasting time more than having bigger things but less of them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Gotta agree. On the left, I’m drawn straight to the secondary set of symbols.

On the right, the “distinct segments” are more distinct to me, because of the colors. Primary symbols, All Clear(?), numpad catch me first. Then I notice the lack of shapes and color on the secondary set of symbols.

[–] Zeus 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

meh, i'd say they're obviously buttons from context (why would a calculator app just have a bunch of random unclickable symbols?). but assuming they don't immediately read to you as buttons; md3 calc app only has 8 buttons: AC, (), %, ÷, ×, -, +, & =. ~~the rest is just exactly the same mess of text randomly laid out~~ edit 2023-08-03: i have now looked at this image on a better calibrated monitor. the numbers actually do have background circles (why did no-one pick me up on this). however, this does prove my point about the complete lack of any contrast on anything

having areas is good as it allows the eye to do a sort of binary search: if i want a scientific function i'll look in the white on blue, operators in blue on white, numbers in black on white; then search for the exact button i want. without that, everything's an unorganised mess (for instance why are brackets in the same section as operators?), with some functions hidden in the v button at the top right

also i've just noticed - how do the brackets work in md3? do you have to tap the button once to bring up a menu and then tap the bracket you want? or does it automatically insert one based on whether you're inside a set? if it's the latter, how does one do nested brackets?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The one on the right has more of a nostalgic feel of physical "buttons". Then again, it takes up more space so that your capabilities are restricted. Then again, square root, pi etc. - those are all more useful than INV, DEG, & e for me. So I could see where people could go either way, up to personal preference and even more so on the need that they are trying to meet. Although the one on the left just flat entirely wastes 3 buttons worth of space...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The colors are auto-generated from your phone wallpaper. Maybe choose one that is less homogenous :)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, choose a wallpaper you like less so your calculator doesn't suck!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Or, just change the color if you don't like it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You can also disable the automatic theme generation if you like your wallpaper with a gradient from light beige to eggshell so much :)

[–] hydra 1 points 1 year ago

There are also preset schemes.