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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.cafe/post/1679861

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I do wish EC pulls this off. It would great having an actual home-grown competitor to cloud providers. EU does data protection better than anyone else, this would very much be a symbiotic relationship.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 45 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

19 companies are involved, including SAP and Orange in the Cloud-Edge Capabilities workstream and Deutsche Telecom in the Cloud-Edge Continuum Infrastructure workstream.

Yeah those names really don't inspire confidence. On the other hand, SAP and Telekom did successfully and quickly implement the corona warn app in Germany back in 2020 as FOSS - so this might result in something eventually.

I'd recommend to just throw the โ‚ฌ1.2B at Hetzner with Nextcloud and be done with the European solution.

[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

While Hetzner has done a lot to make Nextcloud convenient to use and stable, it's still an overbloated mess of a software with tons of bugs.

Perfect for an EU-wide project!

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

aren't they working on rewriting the thing in go?

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

That's owncloud, from which Nextcloud was forked.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

God, whenever I hear SAP I think of disaster and cringe. SAP has the sexappeal of satellite telephones.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But they pay good lobby money.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Exactly. The sucessful lobbying of the German automobile industry is a good analogy why SAP sucks.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Iโ€™m trying to imagine what youโ€™d have to do to have OVH bill you 1.2 billion.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Accidentially click on "Buy the company"

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

โ‚ฌ1.2B at Hetzner with Nextcloud and be done with the European solution.

That would be nice, Hetzner has been providing good service for a while

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They wasted millions on the development of an app that is a trivial joke and they still needed several cycles to reach stability. Hetzner+Nextcloud is a cute toy, but has nothing to do with actual cloud infrastructure. 1B is a joke investment when your competitors are Amazon and Microsoft. This money is going to be wasted entirely and there will be zero useful products coming out of it. Exactly like the COVID app

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

The Hetzner Cloud Server API would actually make a pretty good start for what you call "actual cloud infrastructure", certainly closer to that than NextCloud.