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[–] A_Random_Idiot 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Guess I'm putting linux back on my laptop.. Only kept Windows 10 on it, on the rare occasion where having windows without having to spin up a VM was useful to begin with, so its not a major loss i guess.

Just hope battery managements gotten better than the last time I tried, cause god damn that really ruined my battery in no time.

[–] codenamekino 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Anecdotally, I'm running Kubuntu on a Dell 7280 with a 4 cell battery as my personal computer, which gets an hour or two of websurfing and home network experimentation per day, and I'm having to charge up once or twice a week. I dunno how that stacks up to other devices or distros, but I really barely think about my battery.

[–] A_Random_Idiot 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

My laptop can last a solid 8 hours or more web browsing with windows.

when I put linux (ubuntu for the record) on it, it got a whopping 30 minutes before it needed charging. and it royally fucked my battery health to the point it wouldnt work without being plugged in to the power supply constantly (edit. after a week of use, to be clear, not instantly). Thankfully Dell replaced my laptop for unrelated warranty issue and I got a new one with a fresh new unfucked battery.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You sure it wasn't the adapter? Dell has a proprietary chip for their OEM adapters to try to force people to use only Dell OEM adapters. When those adapters' chips shit the bed, the laptop will no longer charge the battery on purpose, just like using a regular adapter that doesn't use the chip (or a knock-off one spoofing it).

An OS isn't going to destroy battery cells or anything.

Ubuntu's official docs do tell you to fully charge the battery and let it run low through a few cycles before it figures it out, though I know people do complain it still gets it wrong. Personally I use Fedora and do not see those kinds of issues over the course of different laptops but as always YMMV.

[–] A_Random_Idiot 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You sure it wasn’t the adapter? Dell has a proprietary chip for their OEM adapters to try to force people to use only Dell OEM adapters. When those adapters’ chips shit the bed, the laptop will no longer charge the battery on purpose, just like using a regular adapter that doesn’t use the chip (or a knock-off one spoofing it).

Considering I have no problems with windows with the same one i've had from the beginning, yes.

An OS isn’t going to destroy battery cells or anything.

No, but bad built in battery management in the OS absolutely can and will.

and did.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Considering I have no problems with windows with the same one i’ve had from the beginning, yes.

Well I mean you were there but from your post it sounds like you're saying Ubuntu damaged your battery so it doesn't charge anymore. Are you saying it worked in Windows afterwards anyway?

No, but bad built in battery management absolutely can and will.

and did.

Nah, even if it started overheating the battery from charging, the battery should just stop before it actually damages it. If it doesn't that's problematic and definitely a hardware defect.

[–] Kbobabob -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Then you're probably not going to need the security updates if that's all you're using it for.

[–] A_Random_Idiot 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Anything connected to the internet needs to be up to date for security fixes.

[–] Kbobabob 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Did someone say it was connected to the Internet? You're assuming that's what's happening. There are plenty of reasons to spin up an OS to test something that does not require the Internet. And I'll even go a step further and say that the security updates may not even be needed depending on what you're doing if you are connected to the Internet. Most security updates are to prevent things from happening after the user interacts with something. If you're not interacting with these things and your PC isn't in the DMZ then there isn't much concern.

[–] A_Random_Idiot 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I love how you are getting offended because you think I'm making assumptions about how I use MY laptop.

[–] Kbobabob 1 points 10 months ago

Lol, oops. Either way, i stand by what i said. I spin up different OS's and snapshots frequently without needing the Internet.