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For decades, government scientists have toiled away trying to make nuclear fusion work. Will commercial companies sprint to the finish?

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[–] BedbugCutlefish 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

I hope it works.

But I'm skeptical enough to say that I think this is a scam. We're closing in, research wise, on getting fusion to generate more power than it takes to run. Which is awesome!

But its still a far trek from that figure, to producing enough power to be practical (I've heard it said you really need to aim for 10x more production than input, minimum, for it to make any sense).

And that is still a trek from making a fusion plant competitive with existing grid power.

I'm skeptical if this plant they're building will even generate power, which is like three steps away from making commercial sense at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You're right, but you can't use the word 'scam' for it. It's an avenue that should be explored fully and may or may not lead somewhere. A scam would imply it's a conspiracy where the players already know the unsuccessful end result, but are hiding it and using funding or similar for other end purposes.

[–] BedbugCutlefish 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That is what I think the owner is doing here. Scamming venture capital firms for a tech that cannot work.

And I mean, its not like I have any proof. I can't read minds; maybe he is a true believer.

But this company feels like those companies back in the 80s that sold tickets to mars, for the rockets they were 'just about to build'; a scam.

This isn't a research firm. This isn't trying to find the exact settings and layouts to make fusion possible. If the article can be taken at face value, this is a company to make a commercial fusion plant. And I find that, in 2023, patently absurd.

[–] assassin_aragorn 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't think I trust the commercial companies, but the research coming out of national labs is promising at least

[–] BedbugCutlefish 1 points 11 months ago

I agree. I'm very much for more research into fusion. I'm still somewhat skeptical of it ever being 'infinite cheap energy'. But even if it never becomes a 'good energy source', the advancement of knowledge is valuable. So its not like I think fusion is a scam overall.

But I think this particular company is.

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