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Just wait until you visit a restaurant that automatically adds 18% gratuity then also expects you to tip on to of that.
Yeah I've been to a restaurant (a few weeks ago) where the bill included a line item that said something like "18% hospitality fee - to ensure our workers are fairly compensated, this is not a tip"
Like WTF.
If it was disclosed anywhere on the menu, I didn't see it.
Been there, won't return.
Even a large party... We brought you business, so you lower your service standards?
Fuck that. Pay your staff.
Also, it's uh, racist. https://archive.is/20230906072713/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/opinion/minimum-wage-racism.html
The "fuck you pay your staff" sentiment is very valid, however, you shouldn't reward a business that doesn't pay their staff well with your money. The reality is, every single restaurant pays their staff a slave wage for the work they have to perform. Even chain restaurants work their employees like dogs. People who excel in the restaurant biz are hard working mfers.
Yeah. That's actually the "fuck you" part, as in, I'm not returning. As it is, I rarely eat out, partially for this reason, partially because inflation is painful.
Oh you sweet summer child. I'm not talking about the "large group" gratuity (which is also bullshit)... I'm talking about restaurants that are now adding an 18% gratuity for every bill - even if you just came in to have a drink.
Sounds like a good reason to pay the bill with the CC and dispute it as fraud after the fact. Chargebacks hurt businesses.
That's when I just let them have the hole they dug. I'd normally at least tip 20% (usa of course.)
I get that the service staff has little to no control over this charge, but I got it earlier tonight on a party of two. No extra service, no check-ins, no waters, nothing other than "here ya go." They even had a QR code to order and pay with phone number, email, and address requirement even though I'm out of town on a one off drop in.
You know, if they include a mandatory fee, it gets taxed too. So that 18% gets sales taxed on top of it, bringing it close to 20% anyway. You end up paying the same amount and the government just gets more. Overall dumbbbbb
Okay, that's insane. Part of the social contract we have in tipping culture is that your server is supposed to be a superstar. Crazy nightmare dinner rushes aside, no waters??????
The best is when they add the percentage POST TAX!!!
Just reading this makes me angry. Bravo.
But that's literally what the gratuity is for. Conscientious restaurants want to make sure their staff gets a little something something from a large party, auto grats are for that reason. If they expect a tip on top of that, something is wrong.
Some restaurants are now starting to do this for every bill - not just for large groups.
If a restaurant owner won't pay their staff enough without tips, that's the real problem.
That's a funny way of spelling won't.
You're right. Editing my post