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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm saying that a lot of people in Germany are brain-washed morons. And the overlap between those and the loud ones feeling a need to voice their complains is big.

That doesn't mean that there aren't low-income people that suffer from higher energy prices, but that's more a question of not having enough money to easily handle any unexpected costs. Those are however not typical the people talking loudly about their financial problems in general.

But then Germans just installed a record number of new gas-heaters. Because they are brain-washed by right-wing media with stories of how the evil Greens in government are trying to ban heating and forcing everyone to install those crappy heat-pumps that don't actually work and are just a scam, because obviously physics works differently in the Pensioneer Republic of Germany somehow. As I said I haven't heated for years as I live surrounded by average Germans and they will do a lot of complaining about their required supplementary payments up to a low 4-digit number (the usual renting contracts in Germany include a pre-payment per month for heating calculated based on expected costs per year) instead of smarten up and maybe not heat their mediocre-insulated flats to 24+°C...

(For reference there are my parents who also heat to a more reasonable 20°C. Yes they had to pay money last year -there was a short price-shock after all- but then their pre-payments increased by 20€/month and so they were covered when they got their yearly bill last month -for one year including last winter- that included an additional payment of about 5€ for their real heating costs. Yes, that's still money. No that's not budget breaking for the avergae loud complainer. Ohh and btw... the government implemented a price stop that they are letting run out early this winter as actual prices are down to far below that cap again.)

A lot of the complains are just Germans loving to complain, also fueled by the conservative opposiiton via public media they have big influence on -they were in power for 16 years before after all and for the majority of Germany's existence- telling horror stories about the total failure of government since the day they came into office, so they will get back to government soon for another decade or two of letting everything decay and sabotaging an energy transition that should be in the works for decades already.

You know, the same people that just today loudly announced how Germany's energy transition has failedand we need to go back to coal and nuclear... when that transition is actually a decades long plan and just from November 2022 to November 2023 in comparison the share of renewables -with most things needing years of construction- increased from ~48% to 77%.

EDIT/Addon: It's also very telling that we get the big stories doemstically and internationally how Germans couldn't heat their homes. Have you noticed how they again used total numbers without context? As barely anybody will read the text to see that it's 6,5% of the population, so far below the European average of more than 9%. That's also nothing new: We got the same "Oh, god! Germany is importing nearly 20% of Europeans share of Russian fossil fuels!"-stories last year... and no one could ever be bothered to compare that to share of population, share of industrial production or share of exports/GDP. All those numbers would have shown 20% +/- a few %, showing Germany was exactly on average. But that was not the stories that they wanted to tell.

Reporting badly about Germany sells: Internationally as people love to hear about Germans allegedly suffering and domestically as they do anything to get the failures back into office whose policies for decades lead to todays situation.