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[–] t_jpeg 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't support Hamas just like you don't. I don't support the death of civilians, Israeli or Palestinian. What I have a problem with in the general sentiment of this thread is people acting as if the Israeli government's actions are not the cause of this war. Hamas would not exist if the Israeli government never oppressed Palestinian people first. The PLO wouldn't exist if the Israeli government didn't oppress Palestinian people first. Hamas killing innocent civilians wouldn't have happened if the Israeli govrnement never tried to genocide Palestinians. You can argue that Hamas would commit genocide if they could, but the fact is Israel is the one commiting genocide at the moment. Making out as if both need equal condemning (although they need condemning nonetheless) is equivalent to giving a bully the same punishment as the victim who fights back. They are simply not the same.

Fuck Hamas and fuck Israel. But especially fuck Israel.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Making out as if both need equal condemning (although they need condemning nonetheless) is equivalent to giving a bully the same punishment as the victim who fights back.

If the victim fighting back is a punch to the face, I'd completely agree. But this victim fought back with excessive force and I can't ignore that either. I do agree that Isreal made their own bed. I've been yelling for years that all Israel is doing is recruiting more hamas members.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bet you feel enlightened with your centrist take.

[–] t_jpeg -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Desire for Palestinian liberation can never be centrist, sorry.

[–] samus12345 7 points 1 year ago

Whatever crimes the Israeli government committed (and there are many), nothing justifies killing civilians who have nothing to do with them, and that goes for both sides. Fuck anyone who murders innocent civilians for any reason.

[–] FarmTaco 6 points 1 year ago

the victim who fights back by... killing completely random innocent children. but i guess the instant that is over, it no longer happened.