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Japan automakers play catch-up in EV race (www3.nhk.or.jp)

submitted 11 months ago by boem to c/technology

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Are you working out all the prices in Australian fun bucks?... Because an ioniq 6 is not $82,000 usd for any of the trim levels and after running comparable TCOs vs fuel it will start paying for itself after the 15 year mark (well within the expected useful lifespan of a modern temperature controlled lithium pack (old EVs had significant degrading from temperature fluctuations, but new packs level off at about 10-20% wear now for an expected lifespan of 25-40 years >80% SOC)). Biggest downside is tax, payments, and higher than usual insurance which I'm not including in the TOC Calc because it's so varied based on location that it's hard to estimate.

[–] Wooki 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Learn to read.

AUD.

Go visit their website in Australia. 70-90k.

Start pay for itself after 15 years

Battery only lasts about 12 years of normal use before needing replacement hence the poor secondhand values. What are you going to run it on, gasoline?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fuck off.

The 12 years you're referring to is a assuming batteries without thermal management via nrel modeling, the ioniq 6 must face HEAFTY import taxes in your country (which is not the fault of the vehicle), and there are alternatives to running on gasoline like recycling the old cell (already a reality) and replacing it with another.

[–] Wooki 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Again stop equating USD to AUD, that price also includes government subsidies and tax breaks, eg NO tax! Frankly I don’t care if you do or don’t believe me, they have a website, it gives you the cost subsidies and tax breaks pretty clearly.

So far as the life time goes 12 years is very generous based on country average 25,000km per annum