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[โ€“] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (14 children)

We should really stop doing polls. People will answer depending on how something sounds on the surfcae with exactly no clue about details.

The same people in UK that want to rejoin the EU single market will also vote against most consequences of joining the single market.

Just like for example a majority of Europeans when asked wants to stop daylight saving time changes for permanent 'summer time' (because summer is a more positive connotation when that 1 hour shift from standard time is bad by any objective metric and actually bad for our health).

Just like a majority of Germans right now loudly agrees to more investments, to then turn around and answer in another poll how spending any money (even more when it's financed by debt) should be avoided.

People are idiots and polls have lost most their meaning as I can get any answer I want just by who I ask and how I phrase the question.

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I never understood the arguments people use surrounding daylight savings. The health risks, accident risks, any risks surround the actual switch, not really the what time is used. If the clocks were set forward for "summer time" then 3 months later Daylight savings was abolished and no one changes their clocks anymore (as you said, permanent summer time) there would be no ill effects from it cause everyone was already used to the time change.

I want to get rid of daylight savings. I don't care whether it's standard time that use used or daylight savings time that is used as long as the switchover stops happening.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

With people mostly using clocks which don't need adjusting, we could have the best of both worlds.

Currently, 12 o'clock is defined as the sun being at its highest point at a specific location (in winter, standard time)

Imagine you take the same reference location, and define sunrise as 7:00 (am). No health issues, no sudden changes, and probably best for the biorhythm.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

If the clocks were set forward for "summer time" then 3 months later Daylight savings was abolished and no one changes their clocks anymore (as you said, permanent summer time) there would be no ill effects

Yes, there would be "ill effects". Having more daylight later the day is a pure luxury/convenience (for the people not working at that time anymore...). Having to an hour more between waking up and the sun coming up however has adverse effects on your natural clock and health.

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