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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And even then there is no "database" that contains portions of works. The network is only storing the weights between tokens. Basically groups of words and/or phrases and their likelyhood to appear next to each other. So if it is able to replicate anything verbatim it is just overfitted. Ironically the solution is to feed it even more works so it is less likely to be able to reproduce any single one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

That's a bald faced lie.

and it can produce copyrighted works.
E.g. I can ask it what a Mindflayer is and it gives a verbatim description from copyrighted material.

I can ask Dall-E "Angua Von Uberwald" and it gives a drawing of a blonde female werewolf. Oops, that's a copyrighted character.

[–] KingRandomGuy 10 points 1 year ago

I think what they mean is that ML models generally don't directly store their training data, but that they instead use it to form a compressed latent space. Some elements of the training data may be perfectly recoverable from the latent space, but most won't be. It's not very surprising as a result that you can get it to reproduce copyrighted material word for word.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I think you are confused, how does any of that make what I said a lie?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can do that too. It doesn't mean I directly copied it from the source material. I can draw a crude picture of Mickey Mouse without having a reference in front of me. What's the difference there?

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you have a crude picture of Mickey Mouse and you make money from it, Disney definitely has a chance at going after you.

[–] brianorca 2 points 1 year ago

That's due to trademark, not copyright.