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Poll says three in four want Trudeau to go, but Trudeau insists he’ll stay (globalnews.ca)
submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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The Conservatives have a 16-point lead. Three-quarters of the country think it's time for a change. But Justin Trudeau is vowing to fight Pierre Poilievre in the next election.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Good grief. Everyone talks like Trudeau is lacking, and he might be, but has anyone considered that it’s a MINORITY government right now. You can’t just “ram shit through”, you have to work with others and play nice.

I fucking LOVE this situation right now.

A. It’s not the right-wing wackos in charge - don’t get me started. B. Trudeau has resources and experienced support, old favours, blah blah C. But Trudeau is held in check by, mostly, by the NDP(who I view as the political ’conscience’ of Canada). D. NDP are the real kingmakers - anything doesn’t pass muster? Nope! E. This forces EVERYONE to play and work together.

Isn’t that what this country is about?

Or is it about, “MY turn to drive!”? There’s no absolute power, right now and that’s a good thing.

Who gives a shit if a turd is, technically, “in charge”? The bus is driving like it’s supposed to.

Did he steal a cookie? They ALL do!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I love the situation we are in right now as well.

I'm afraid though that if Trudeau doesn't step down and let another take the lead for the liberals, the conservatives might get a majority.

[–] voluble 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Just to provide a counterpoint here.

I'm left leaning on most issues, and I don't think the current parliamentary composition is a good thing at all. The Liberals have a comfortable minority, and have an explicit agreement with the NDP that props them up. This means the Liberals simply do what they were going to do anyway, and the NDP rattles their sabres about cost of living and pharmacare and dental care, to no real effect. Liberals are not effectively kept in check, and real progressive policy issues that could materially benefit Canadians aren't being put forward.

I don't like it, and I don't think it serves the plurality of Canadian citizen views - we're in a bad place and I don't see how anyone who isn't already a Liberal voter could love it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

The NDP is only proping them up on confidence class votes (like a budget for example). The majority of votes are not like that.

You can suggest that the NDP haven't gotten anything, but they DID get dental care, and that is a huge win and shouldn't be brushed aside.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

NDP isn't just voting with Liberal on every issue. So yes, this is the best case scenario and is representing a plurality of Canadians.