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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Fax machines are definitely being phased out.

Floppy disks? How old is this meme? In the nearly twenty years I've been in Japan, I've never even seen a floppy disk.

Paper filing is an option if you want it.

And as for cash, electronic payments have really taken off in the last year. I still value my privacy though. So I stick it out in the slow line up.

All in all, there's a kernel of truth to the meme. What the outside sees as a Blade Runner society drenched in neon, the reality is more "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" kinda place.

[–] MeanEYE 6 points 1 year ago

Floppies are still a huge thing in heavy industry. Many of those machines are still being used and you have to enter code somehow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fax machines are definitely being phased out.

NTT East, at least as of a little over two years ago, hard requires a fax to set up internet still. It's infuriating.

[–] ManosTheHandsOfFate 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also in the US the medical industry still does a ton of faxing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yep. Having worked in the industry for a long time, including trying to transition to EMR and such, I get this. In Japan, one of the reason fax machines are still important that is not often talked about is that they generally have a bank of pre-programmed numbers. This is seen as a way to reduce the chance of exposing PII to others by accident. This is not wrong, but the same could be implemented for other systems such as email (or the host of EDI that exist). I literally just had a training that said we should not even send a fax ourselves, but have someone observe that we hit the correct pre-programmed button for it.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What privacy from cash? Do you use an ATM or bank account to get your cash?

Then you're either on the business security cam or the local police network cam. There is no privacy even with cash.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All your shopping behaviour and more can be tracked easily by card purchases. Cash purchases are much harder to track.

At least that's how I see the advantage of cash here. Maybe I do miss something though

[–] MedicPigBabySaver -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Carry a cellphone? Then your habits are easily tracked and sold to businesses.

[–] papalonian 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can list 100 other forms of tracking if you'd like to, but the point the person is trying to make is they specifically don't want tracking on their exact purchases.

Buy something on a credit card and the CC company knows exactly what you bought, where you bought it, when you bought it etc. Unless you're a really high profile target, no company is going out of their way to get all that info when you buy something in cash.

Your argument basically amounts to "why would anyone put a lock on their front door when someone can climb their fence, smash a window and climb through?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The CC company knows exactly what you bought

No they don't. They know when, where, to whom, and how much you paid tho

[–] papalonian 1 points 1 year ago

Really depends. I have two cards that basically show me a receipt when I view the details of the transaction

[–] MedicPigBabySaver -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Point is people freak about privacy to make lame excuses about stupid shit like using cash. I don't even go to businesses that are "cash only". It's incredibly dumb.

[–] papalonian 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

to make lame excuses about stupid shit like using cash

I don't think anyone is making (or needs) an "excuse" to use cash. They're simply stating why they do it and for some reason you feel the need to explain how they're somehow "wrong".

I swear, people on this website will try to convince you that your favorite flavor of ice cream is wrong.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver 0 points 1 year ago

Cash is wrong and vanilla ice cream is bland & stupid.