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Florida Governor Ron DeSantis aspires to be the same kind of Autocrat despised by the founders of the United States. He must be exposed for what he is: a great threat to our Democratic Republic and American values. Republicans don't punish big businesses like the Walt Disney Company for disagreeing with them. Fascists do. DeSantis and those like him are a massive threat to our Democracy.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No autopsy, and some really bad emergency medical practice is what I consider suspicious. Not extremely suspicious, but suspicious regardless. Obfuscating what happened is weird, but still kinda normal.

Capitol Police officers arrived with an automated external defibrillator (AED) machine. The machine reportedly “could not produce a shock” to jumpstart Antonacci’s heart.

That is not what AEDs are for. To my knowledge, you can't jumpstart a stopped heart. It also doesn't explicitly say his heart was stopped, so there is that.

[–] geekworking 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are right that shocks only work for certain problem heart rhythms. If the AED doesn't detect a rhythm that a shock can fix, it will say something like no shock advised and won't shock.

"Machine could not produce a shock" sounds like a bystander who doesn't understand describing a no shock situation. Either that or maybe AED battery wasn't charged or faulty.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, I see my issue. I interpreted the sentence to mean that shocks were administered, but the shocks didn't restart the heart. Thanks for snapping my brain back into the correct context.

Still, if the machine was not functional we could still have the makings of a conspiracy!

[–] Everythingispenguins 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah AEDs actually stop the heart. So there are a few heart rhythms that will not produce a pulse but the heart is still moving, just not as a single unit instead just randomly cells contracting. Think bowl of jello. The AED shocks the heart in a way it stuns it with the hope that it will restart with a normal rhythm. If it isn't moving there is nothing to stop.

Well this can only last so long before the cells die from a lack of oxygen. Which is about 5 minutes, 10 on the long end. So by the time the AED got there he was very dead. Not a full team of doctors and all the tools could have done anything.

This is why you are seeing more and more AEDs in the work place and public places. When you hear the CPR courses talk about early CPR and early AED use it is within five minutes. So that you can buy time for the ambulance to get there and give drugs to keep the person alive till they can get the larger problem fixed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A lot of those machines are programmed to also assist CPR if the defibrillator isn't helpful, at least the newer ones.

[–] Smokeless7048 3 points 1 year ago

yea, they will detect if there is a rythem, tell you to start CPR, Beep at the rate you should be administering it, then tell you to stop while it checks if the heart has reastarted. Really helpfull devices.

[–] sebinspace 2 points 1 year ago

Med tech is fucking insane