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Neither side is 'good' or remotely acts like it in this conflict/war. The only good guys around are the medics & doctors trying to keep people from dying, volunteers trying to keep people from dying of lack of food/water/warmth; and of course all the innocent civilians who are caught up in this clusterfuck.
Naw, these people are bad too, it turns out. These people are willing to lie to everyone to preserve their access to Gaza and the flow of UN aid.
Got any verifiable proof of that?
Yup, some new interrogation tapes are out and also pictures of medical IDs found on terrorists. You should be able to find them with a few clicks.
whose tapes? why can you not just post direct links?
I'm kinda lazy as hell.. and I don't wanna compile all the links.
https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1729111792129826953?t=6ILguZJofx9Bt_vghfIS_Q&s=19
Found one while browsing on the toilet
Well yeah, wouldn't a fake medic ID be highly convenient for a terrorist? (To your comment above).
Statements from one or a couple of people proves nothing, sadly the world we live in is full of lies, deception & coercion.
Including the CCTV footage? Or what was told by the 2020 British doctor who worked at Al Shifa? Including the Vice documentary? Including Amnesty report?
I don't owe you anything.. and I don't care what you think. This war is gonna go one way or the other, but y'all motherfuckers better march with me to force Israel to rebuild Gaza for their neighbours
Xitter has never been, and never will be, considered verifiable proof.
Care to try again, or just call it a day?
I'm gonna call it a day..
And that's bad because? Even assuming that's true, the fact that they need to lie to get aid into Gaza is the problem.
I think it's bad when people who claim neutrality in a conflict are actually aiding one side of the conflict, and lying about it. Israel would be justified, in this situation, in treating them as spies.
Spies against a brutal genocidal occupier are good guys in my book.
Spies on the side of the guys who rape 13-year-old girls with knives aren't the "good guys" in any fucking universe.
Setting aside the veracity of that accusation, medical personnel can only be interpreted as on the side of civilians. It just happens that the interests of civilians (not dying) happen to go against the interests of Israel (killing civilians and taking their lands).
Well, no; if medical personnel are taking affirmative, supportive actions for one of the combatants - as its been proved many medical staff are doing on behalf of Hamas - but are doing so under the false guise of neutrality, then they're spies under the Geneva Conventions and can be shot when captured.
"We had to work with Hamas in order to have access to their civilians" isn't a sufficient defense to that. There are already rules about access to civilians that Hamas can be demanded to follow; you don't actually have to join Hamas in order to access Gazan civilians.
Then why aren't they demanding Hamas GTFO of their hospitals and schools? You're so close.
How do you know they're not? They aren't the military and would have no way to actually do anything about it.
Yeah, I wonder why they don't demand that the GUYS WITH THE WEAPONS get the fuck out or else.
And I'm not saying whether the population agrees or not with Hamas, I'm just saying that "GTFO" is not an option.