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After a certain point in popularity it is assumed the celeb is going to sooner or later:

Be doxxed

Have death threats thrown at them

Be sexually harassed

Have police called on them

Then we have all the Vtubers who are Hannah Monatanning it up and straight chilling. Ironmouse has never been swatted, but by God some people would if they could, and others would probably show up at her house to show their "love".

Dream is an example of someone who shouldn't have let out who he was IMO because the attacks against him seemed to become a lot more real once there was a real human name, face, and location. Like I would have gone to the grave as Dream with how many people hated him before his face reveal.

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[–] krashmo 126 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I can tell I'm getting old because I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything by not having a clue what this post is about. I'm actually kind of proud of the fact that this all reads like a foreign language to me.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Hannah Montana was a Disney show where a girl was a popstar under a different name and wig so she could be a normal person when she wasn't performing. VTubers, like Ironmouse that op referenced, are streamers that essentially play characters rather than stream as themselves in order to preserve their anonymity. They have cameras that track their movement, but rather than just stream the feed of the camera, they map that movement onto an avatar, usually a 3d anime girl.

[–] Lauchs 16 points 1 year ago

Thank you, I was super confused.

[–] ericbomb 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We also have hand youtubers! Or animators abimate their avatars.

A few like legit musicians also hide their face while performing to make it hard to be recognized, but don't go full Hannah Montana and their real names are known.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Last part: Ado does it.
Live performance on stage but the lighting is set up so the face isnt revealed.
https://youtu.be/khplMpm4ctc

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

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[–] Sheltac 2 points 1 year ago

And she absolutely kills it.

[–] Witchfire 1 points 1 year ago

Slow Magic does it a lot. He wears LED masks and keeps his identity secret

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

usually a 3d anime girl

Why are they always very young girls?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Because people are fucked up in the head.

[–] Witchfire 1 points 1 year ago

You really have to ask?

[–] dustyData 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hanna Montana is a 2006 show. Most of it's fan base would all be approaching 30 by this point.

[–] ericbomb 21 points 1 year ago

Oof calling my 29 yo butt out

[–] ericbomb 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm afraid it weirdly impacts everyone.

With how many celebs are getting harassed, more and more are probably going to hide their identities. Hannah Montana was just an early 2000s show about a pop star who put on a wig and fake name to perform and no one knew who she was.

Here are like even some more main stream hidden identities. They seem to leak eventually, but it gets them a lot less attention on the streets.

https://brightside.me/articles/what-8-famous-people-whove-been-hiding-their-faces-look-like-634910/

Vtubers are just youtubers who have an avatar instead of showing their face, and some refuse to even give their real name.

We also have hand youtubers like Lock picking lawyer, who hide his identity to avoid harassment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJrSWXFXvlE&ab_channel=LockPickingLawyer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

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[–] FunnyUsername -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] magnusrufus -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People that view others as human.

[–] FunnyUsername 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think celebrities and actual humans are quite the same. Celebrities have been putting on personas since the very first celebrities began. A celebrity is literally a public image, that's what it is. This stretches to politicians as well. Hannah Montana was not an original idea, it was a commentary on the lives a lot of celebrities live. Tosh.0? A shy introvert.

The only thing you mentioned that was new is the invention of digital avatars. Everything else is business as usual. Who cares?

As for the people harassing people? Well they should stop. Online harassment isn't cool, regardless of celebrity status.

[–] magnusrufus -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't mention anything other than people that view others as humans would care that other humans are being harassed.

Being doxxed and getting death threats? Oh yeah that's not cool but who cares?

Also, a more minor point relative to your stance that celebs aren't human, but how on earth did you manage to equate a public persona with completely obfuscating ones identity or even creating a totally new identity?

[–] FunnyUsername 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ok we're talking about different parts of the original post.

Also I literally don't care about this anymore. Enjoy hitting downvote and crying about YouTubers getting caught up in their own choices in pursuit of fame.

[–] magnusrufus 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Enjoy being proud about being indifferent to human suffering.

[–] FunnyUsername 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Enjoy assuming things about strangers to make yourself feel morally superior.

[–] magnusrufus 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your only reply to the whole of the original post was who cares. The doxxing death threats and sexual harassment, who cares. You wanted to say that you were talking about a different part but you gave no context or indication for that when you just said who cares. How is that not indifference to human suffering? It really doesn't seem like much of an assumption.

[–] FunnyUsername 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] magnusrufus 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes indifference makes you cool. Caring about things is for losers. Any more grade school wisdom you'd like to impart?

[–] FunnyUsername 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Enjoy assuming things about strangers to make yourself feel morally superior.

[–] magnusrufus 0 points 1 year ago

Well we already established it's much of an assumption.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've never understood people that feel the need to brag about not knowing about things. If you dont care about it why waste the time to be smug about it. Who is the performative ignorance for?

[–] krashmo 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're in a community dedicated to sharing random thoughts. I shared mine. The logic isn't hard to follow despite how much you seem to want to be the gatekeeper of acceptable speech.

[–] stockRot -1 points 1 year ago

Good for you, oldie

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I, too, am proud of my own ignorance.