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[–] Nightwingdragon 81 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Just want to throw this out there:

Donald Trump:

  • Survived not one but two impeachment trials because senators feared for their safety if they voted to remove him.

  • Has had at least one judge say that Trump deserves special treatment, with that judge continuing to run interference on Trump's behalf to this day.

  • Went on CNN and publicly defamed E. Jean Carroll for a second time, less than 24 hours after a judge ordered him to pay $5 million for doing it the first time.

  • Was declared an insurrectionist by a Colorado judge, but allowed to stay on the ballot anyway despite being Constitutionally disqualified because the judge feared retribution if he were to remove Trump from the ballot.

  • Has violated multiple gag orders on multiple occasions, including violating one gag order right outside of the courtroom minutes after it was issued. He has faced fines totalling $15,000, which wouldn't even qualify as a rounding error on his taxes if he could be bothered to actually pay taxes. No judge has been willing to impose any sanctions or even warn Trump of the possibility of incarceration for fear of backlash, even though they admit any other defendant would have been jailed for the same behavior.

  • Has made so many credible threats against judges, prosecutors, witnesses, staff, potential jurors, and their families that any developments in any of his cases are now often preceded by lockdowns, significant boosts in security, and even personal security for those involved out of fear of retribution or violence.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (8 children)

The latest ruling from the Colorado judge baffles me. They wrote an extensive ruling saying that Trump engaged in an insurrection and detailed how his actions were not simply exercising free speech. Then decided that while he took an oath to "preserve, protect and defend" the constitution, he never took an oath to "support" the constitution. And also that while the 14th amendment forbids an insurrectionist from holding any office of the United States, the presidency isn't an office. What the actual fuck??

[–] Nightwingdragon 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It was mental gymnastics by someone who knows Trump shouldn't be anywhere near the ballot, but doesn't want to be the one to actually open that Pandora's box out of fear of retaliation. If it weren't that for an excuse, it would be because the Founding Fathers accidentally misspelled the word "President" or something. The judge was simply looking for any excuse to rule the way he did, and that's just the excuse he settled on.

[–] pahlimur 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pathetic people really shouldn't aim for positions of power but they make up the majority of powerful positions. This guy could've been remembered for hundreds of years for doing the right thing. Instead he'll be vaguely remembered similar to the failures in the German government pre WW2 if shit truly goes wrong.

[–] Nightwingdragon 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pathetic people really shouldn’t aim for positions of power but they make up the majority of powerful positions. This guy could’ve been remembered for hundreds of years for doing the right thing.

I'm not trying to defend the judge by saying this, but I do think it needs to be said. Trump is probably the first person in US history to be:

  • Easily the most corrupt authoritarian in US history
  • Able to wield such a disproportionate amount of influence over people at every level of not only government but the private sector; he has enough power to dictate the political careers of representatives in deep red states, and enough influence over individual people that there are lone wolf followers out there willing to carry out threats on his behalf.
  • Able to make mobster-level, "coded" threats against his political enemies and anyone even tangentally associated with them and has the resources to carry them out.

Judges are probably used to death threats from every two-bit defendant that just got sentenced to life without parole. They're probably also used to credible threats from cartel associates who don't actually have the resources to carry them out (because their associates are in Mexico or wherever). But Trump is a unique case, as threats coming from him could easily be carried out by any local lone-wolf MAGA cultist who has decided that this is the hill they're willing to die (or kill somebody) on, making the threats not only credible, but almost impossible to defend against. This does put judges in a situation where they have to weigh whether ruling against Trump is worth putting their literal lives at risk for, and we've seen the results of that time and time again recently. And while I may not necessarily agree with them, I can understand judges being gun-shy over issuing a ruling that could be the equivalent of signing their own death warrant.

[–] pahlimur 4 points 1 year ago

You are giving Donald too much credit. His cult is fairly inactive in commiting stochastic terrorism, moreso recently. I'd argue the judge is just gargling his limp mushroom dick over it being some difficult scary decision. Judges are normal people too and can be swayed into the maga cult.

Standing up to authoritarians when you are given the opportunity is the only way to stop them...

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