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Solar now being the cheapest energy source made its rounds on Lemmy some weeks ago, if I remember correctly. I just found this graphic and felt it was worth sharing independently.

Source: https://ourworldindata.org/cheap-renewables-growth

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[–] bitflag 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No it doesn't. Cheap solar is great but even if it was $0, you'd still need some other tech to provide electricity when the sun is down. So it's either gas, batteries, nuclear, etc. but you can't just use solar alone.

And until batteries get good enough, nuclear is the cleanest option we have.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How long will it take for us to get good enough batteries? If it's less than 10 years, then it's less than the time to build a nuclear power plant.

Oh, and the answer may very well be that we already have batteries that are good enough.

[–] bitflag 0 points 1 year ago

How long will it take for us to get good enough batteries?

Including the time to manufacture and install them at utility scales (we are talking powering an entire nation out of batteries for hours), way more than a decade.

Batteries are already being installed on grids but they can only help so much smooth out power delivery. They are very very far from having the ability to completely take over an entire grid.

[–] alekwithak 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] bitflag 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They could. Someday.

Nuclear can, now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

shouldn't we be working towards a better someday than settling for a worse today?

[–] bitflag 1 points 1 year ago

Time is running out on the climate, how many decades can we wait for the "perfect" solution to show up when we have a good enough one right now they can help?

[–] gmtom -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, like wind. Which is also much cheaper and cleaner than nuclear.

[–] bitflag 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Germany has tons of solar and winds and yet it is pretty common to have neither (windless nights) at which point the entire grid needs to be powered by non renewables. That's a lot of standby power.

[–] HandBreadedTools -4 points 1 year ago

Bro do you know how power storage works